Poll: Official 2024 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread - Hungaroring, Budapest - Race 13/24

Rate the Budapest race out of ten

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They really need to draft in someone who likes a car that handles the way Max likes it; no idea if that's what Danny Ricc likes but there has to be a reason he seems to be at the forefront of Red Bull's list; because it can't be his performances.
 
chrismscotland said:
They really need to draft in someone who likes a car that handles the way Max likes it; no idea if that's what Danny Ricc likes but there has to be a reason he seems to be at the forefront of Red Bull's list; because it can't be his performances.
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DR hasn't done too bad recently, today he was affected to by a couple of weird team decisions that saw him to the back of the field but was able to recover and for a while was matching the pace in the top 5.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Max is going to join Merc. That team radio from red bull made it sound like they are tired of Max's antics. Max playing Iracing on its 24 hour event must really urk Christian.
 
I also cringed at the cool down chat bit when Lando very abruptly came out with that out of nowhere. Strange comment. He should consider showing some respect for Lewis.

On the Max Vs Lewis collision. Just simplifying it completely... Is that not the very definition of causing a collision? Max locked up and hence they collided. Most weeks that's a slam dunk pen for anyone.
The FIA as usual are consistently inconsistent.
 
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Fuming about that. Norris clearly should have won! Also Norris is p2 in the championship, it makes sense for him to get more points.

Mclaren need their heads checking.....Piastre is a no body as far as the championship goes, he should have gone 2nd for his team mate who was beating him on merit.
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The only reason Norris got ahead is because the team allowed him to pit first when Oscar should have had first choice. They did this to benefit Norris on the understanding that he would swap places with Oscar given Oscar legitimately took the lead and drove a great race. If they didn’t pit Norris before Oscar then he probably wouldn’t have beaten Oscar on track.

Yet again Norris messed up his start and lost position.

Today feels like McLaren have had to put Norris in his place for getting too big for his boots. The team have publicly reiterated that it’s not all about the aspirations of Norris, and rightly so.

Norris is starting to behave like his podiums are the only thing that matters, and unfortunately that won’t fly with the team, and he will find himself on a slippery slope.
 
How about Max going to McLaren! Yea, i know contracts have been signed but, they can also be broken too!!

I cant see Max staying in Red Bull. I guess he could go to Merc.
 
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DR hasn't done too bad recently, today he was affected to by a couple of weird team decisions that saw him to the back of the field but was able to recover and for a while was matching the pace in the top 5.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Max is going to join Merc. That team radio from red bull made it sound like they are tired of Max's antics. Max playing Iracing on its 24 hour event must really urk Christian.
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I'm not sure about next season; there's been reports from some of the motorsport media that Marko has committed to a new deal with Red Bull guaranteeing he'll be there until the end of 2026 now, which means Max hasn't got an "out" for 2025 or 2026.
There also are suggestions that the "Helmut" clause in Max' contract has been re-negotiated to ensure that he can't walk in the event that Marko is absent due to illness/death (hardly unlikely with him being 81!)

 
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koolpc said:
How about Max going to McLaren! Yea, i know contracts have been signed but, they can also be broken too!!

I cant see Max staying in Red Bull. I guess he could go to Merc.
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I can only see Merc as an option. Ferrari and McLaren wouldn’t benefit from a better driver, whereas Merc could given the empty seat.

Can’t see him leaving RB just for a a change of scenery though. If there is some internal tension/politics, that could be what drives it.
 
I think Perez did a decent job today following a disastrous qualifying. He’s done enough to keep his seat for at least a little longer.
 
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The only reason Norris got ahead is because the team allowed him to pit first when Oscar should have had first choice. They did this to benefit Norris on the understanding that he would swap places with Oscar given Oscar legitimately took the lead and drove a great race. If they didn’t pit Norris before Oscar then he probably wouldn’t have beaten Oscar on track.

Yet again Norris messed up his start and lost position.

Today feels like McLaren have had to put Norris in his place for getting too big for his boots. The team have publicly reiterated that it’s not all about the aspirations of Norris, and rightly so.

Norris is starting to behave like his podiums are the only thing that matters, and unfortunately that won’t fly with the team, and he will find himself on a slippery slope.
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Disagree.

Oscar made a few mistakes Norris at one stage was fair amount behind and then was right on him because of one of them.

We saw Norris had a lot more pace Oscar was way behind him towards the end of the race that was nothing to do with the undercut.

Norris is acting like a driver who wants to win I don't see what the problem is.

Come end of the season the points he has given up for this race could be a deciding factor for drivers championship.

If I was a driver I wouldn't want to be handed a win how is that really you achieving it.
 
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I think it was short sighted by McLaren.

They appear to have a car fast enough for both of their drivers to rival and beat Max.

Max is 76 points ahead of Norris now....could have been 69.

There are 11 races left and in a perfect scenario of Mclaren 1,2s with Norris winning and max coming 3rd everytime that is 110 points.

Obviously the above is unlikely, but it could swing either way and it shows it is still fairly possible Norris could win. McLaren could get even luckier if Max has a few DNFs.

If Lando ends up losing the championship by 7 points, McLaren are going to feel very, very sick and Lando would probably be furious.
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Would only take 1 DNF i think to put the cat amongst the pigeons, especially as that RB isn't a second quicker anymore.
 
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Ooft.

That was a bit juicy.

Genuinely thought norris wasn't going to let him pass.

Piastri is my favourite driver since he arrived. And to be honest, I've never been keen on norris. I'd have fumed if I was norris hadn't let him pass.

But this stems back to mclaren too. They should have pitted piastri first before this ever became a problem. Even 2 laps before.

This is a tainted 1,2.

Norris is fuming, and probably not a great way for piastri to get his first win.



Oh, verstappen really showing that he's an absolute tool when he had to fight.



Oh, and shame for gasly. Was looking good until yet more reliability.
 
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I do think they shouldn't have asked Norris to give up the place... That being said, if Norris HAD given up the place when first asked, he would have had many more laps to challenge Piastri as he was faster... I just hope there's still time to beat Max.
 
McLaren probably showing a little naivety and the fact they haven't really been anywhere near a title fight in over 10-12 years.
It takes time to get used to running st the front again and making the correct decisions, we've seen plenty of strategic mistakes this year from what happened yesterday to poor tyre choices.

Let's hope for Mclarens sake they can get with the program a bit quicker and stop harming themselves.
It's something Ferrari have struggled with for years now!
 
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I think Perez did a decent job today following a disastrous qualifying. He’s done enough to keep his seat for at least a little longer.
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He ran a reasonable recovery race but Red Bull need a driver who can deliver when Max stumbles. McLaren took 43 pts to their 16 despite having the second fastest car. Not good enough. Perez is losing them the WCC.
 
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I do think they shouldn't have asked Norris to give up the place... That being said, if Norris HAD given up the place when first asked, he would have had many more laps to challenge Piastri as he was faster... I just hope there's still time to beat Max.
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It is another case of ruining his own race. Poor start from pole and childish behaviour when, like you said, could have done the swap and raced for position.

McLaren obviously have their part in this. They chose to the pit order for the benefit of the team but seemingly didn’t communicate it properly.
 
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We saw Norris had a lot more pace Oscar was way behind him towards the end of the race that was nothing to do with the undercut.
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Norris went all out on his mediums in that last stint to try to make the decision harder for Mclaren. Piastri was told multiple times not to worry about Lando as he would be let past and to bring his tyres in slowly. So yes of course Lando was quicker.
Piastri was 2 or 3 seconds ahead before the pit stops when actual racing was taking place.

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If I was a driver I wouldn't want to be handed a win how is that really you achieving it.
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Quite. Lando was the one handed the win due to the way they approached the final pit stop. Piastri earned the win by beating Lando off the line and controlling the race.
 
I don't really get why they didn't just pit Piastri first anyway. Another lap or two for Norris wasn't going to see him lose the place to Lewis..
 
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