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***official amd 83x0 overclocking thread***

I run 670s in SLI and have seen no issues with the performance being on an FX. Having looked around my GPUs are doing exactly what they should do, even when the CPU is needed in equal measure.

I don't buy into this "Smoother on Intel" thing. That's just a childish way of saying that the Intel is better. Not that I'm having a go at you there, but I must have heard stuff like that a million times. You may find that once Windows is done updating and everything else that performance is better, but if not then any shortfalls are simply down to software support. Yeah I know that kinda sounds a bit rigid but at the end of the day when supported properly there are no FPS drop issues or anything else.

Have you tried Crysis 3 yet? give that a go, and, Far Cry 3 if you have them. I'm sure you'll be very impressed :)
 
Martini1991 said:
Moogleys, how can it match it in performance if it can't keep your 7970 at the same level as your 4670K?

It's a massive contradiction.

Although, what you've said, is literally the same thing I've said on a multitude of occasions (Except I take a crap ton of heat for it for some reason.........)
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They perform very similar in general testing. I see no huge difference between them that shouts out. So general performance is about the same give or take a few points either way here or there.

But the 8350 @ 5Ghz (or even at stock as I tested this as well to eliminate throttling due to my overclock) has trouble maintaining a constant 60Fps or over with my 7970 running 1300/1700. It happens in quite a few games but is more noticeable in BF3 & BF4 Beta.

When using the 4670k this does not happen even at stock as well.

I'm still investigating, playing and trying different things. The 8350 is a much more fun system to play around with. There is so much you can adjust and tweak.
 
So, general usability you mean there's no difference? (Not that I imagine there would be, an SSD pretty much removes that, an Athlon II with an SSD is going to give the same general usability as my 4670K unless I'm gaming etc)
 
ALXAndy said:
I run 670s in SLI and have seen no issues with the performance being on an FX. Having looked around my GPUs are doing exactly what they should do, even when the CPU is needed in equal measure.

I don't buy into this "Smoother on Intel" thing. That's just a childish way of saying that the Intel is better. Not that I'm having a go at you there, but I must have heard stuff like that a million times. You may find that once Windows is done updating and everything else that performance is better, but if not then any shortfalls are simply down to software support. Yeah I know that kinda sounds a bit rigid but at the end of the day when supported properly there are no FPS drop issues or anything else.

Have you tried Crysis 3 yet? give that a go, and, Far Cry 3 if you have them. I'm sure you'll be very impressed :)
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I have tried both games and they both run and play very well on either system. But the 8350 does drop under 60fps more often than the Intel system.

I have no allegiance to either brand I say what I find based on my own testing and feelings. I'm certainly not childish :)

I think the 8350 is a superb cpu and offers a hell of a lot of performance for the price and as you can add it to an existing AM3+ mobo it is a great upgrade option.

But I have to say if I was building new and wanted the best all round performance in all games including BF4 (Beta) the 4670k (Overclocked) would be my choice.

Then again the sheer amount of tweaking that you can do to an 8350 system using the Crosshair board means there is superb tweaking value to be had.

I'm having loads of fun and that is what it's about.. :)
 
Which games are dropping below 60fps?

I think there is very little chance that the 4670K will outperform an 8350 in BF4 final.
 
Anyway this is the 8350 overclocking thread so let's keep it about that. I'm not wanting to start an AMD vs Intel war I have systems using both so each has it's own thread.

I'm going to see if I can push a bit higher this evening. My 5Ghz is Perfectly stable although it does run on the limits of temperature. I'm not sure I can push it much higher without investing in a water setup. I think I have reached the limit of my Dark Rock Pro 2 which is rated to 240w..:eek:

I will try later and see what happens.

I love the fact there is so many options to achieve an overclock. Tweaking and balancing FSB with Core clock and voltage is superb. You try something and it fails so you go about it a different way and you get a bit more out of it. Superb...
 
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Sorry for this slightly off topic question. I just received my EK-Supreme LTX AMD waterblock and to my horror it doesn't come with a backplate. The universal EK backplate compatible with this is out of stock everywhere. The instructions say you can mount it without a backplate but to me that feels wrong and I don't really want to warp the CHVFZ on day 1. Anyone got any experience mounting this without a backplate?

Pretty poor from EK, I would have ordered another waterblock with a backplate if I knew this.
 
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No CPU on earth can keep Crysis 3 at over 60 FPS constantly. Not with ultra settings (which is what I use). TBH the 7970 is not enough to play it at ultra settings with any sort of aliasing. Even the Titan dips into the 30s and it's not down to CPU performance really it's just GPU bound. As soon as you get to the highest settings it absolutely kills a PC no matter how masculine. You stand much more of a chance with Far Cry 3, though. That is much easier on a system :)

I don't see much of a difference in FPS whether running 4xmsaa or FXaa. Here I am playing Crysis 3 on one of the most demanding levels (with the blades of grass). Ultra settings 4xmsaa. I saw hardly any difference when running it 1080p if I'm honest, I would imagine it's down to it using the same textures. But these results? (IE mid 40s min?) are absolutely bang on with 670s in SLI for this game, so I'm certain I'm not bottlenecking. I can run 8xmsaa if I want to but it will lower FPS into the low 30s min which I don't like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPVhSYYnpgc
 
alex_123_fra said:
Sorry for this slightly off topic question. I just received my EK-Supreme LTX AMD waterblock and to my horror it doesn't come with a backplate. The universal EK backplate compatible with this is out of stock everywhere. The instructions say you can mount it without a backplate but to me that feels wrong and I don't really want to warp the CHVFZ on day 1. Anyone got any experience mounting this without a backplate?

Pretty **** poor from EK, I would have ordered another waterblock with a backplate if I knew this.
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I'm pretty certain that all AMD boards have a back plate built in dude.



Aye, it does :)
 
Blimey this thread has moved on! Sorry for the absence, I haven't fried my board or CPU just yet :D Unfortunately I suffered a two day ban for not completely blanking a swear word :rolleyes:

Anyway wrist slapped, and lesson learned.

I'm currently running at 297 x 16 to give me 4.75Ghz. I've benched at a fraction under 5Ghz which is a great for 970 board, so now trying to find a 24/7 clock I'm happy with. System locks up under stress testing but was fine playing Crysis 2 for about 3 hours last night which I believe it pretty CPU intensive.

Will give BF4 a good hammering over the next couple of nights too. Temps are currently maxing at 53° on the core whilst gaming so not bad.

It's strange that I'm getting lock ups as apposed to shutdowns/BSOD now.

Great to see some newcomers here! I was surprised no one spat the dummy out when Thorn jokingly said he bought an i5, I nearly fell of my chair! :D
 
I wouldn't drill into the back plate as you'll void warranty. I would just not use one tbh. Just be careful you apply even pressure on the bolts and don't go too hard :)
 
Do a hack job on your current backplate is what I'd do, or without backplate.

Bit of a botch job from EK IMO.

I remember when the Corsair H50 never supported AMD out of the box too.

All you need the backplate for is support really, could use any none conductive material for that tbh.
 
Martini1991 said:
Do a hack job on your current backplate is what I'd do, or without backplate.

Bit of a botch job from EK IMO.

I remember when the Corsair H50 never supported AMD out of the box too.

All you need the backplate for is support really, could use any none conductive material for that tbh.
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Yeah bit of acrylic or something would do the job.
 
Id try and find a backplate online TBH. I bought an Alphacool CNB Uni one for my EK block was only £4, I have gone no back plate in the past but for best contact you need one. my point being you don't need the EK one specifically.

As far as I know the only water block that is compatible with the AMD back plate is the XSPC Raystorm.
 
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