******* Official Football Manager 14 Thread *******

Going to uninstall this now.
It just isn't the same :(

Players just round around the player with the ball, like they're scared to tackle.
I've seen them just run past them too.
 
After an excellent run and a certain amount of luck i managed to win the german Third division title. Made loads of freebie signings over the close season, mainly young players for the future. Shall see how we do in the 2nd division :)
 
Not sure if its a bug, but on my game whenever I start a new save, if I ask the boardroom to increase the wage budget, they'll always agree to it and normally put at least £100k+ extra into the wage budget even when I'm lowly teams like Hull! I'm not complaining though, because I'm a transfer muppet :p
 
gamerTM21 said:
Not sure if its a bug, but on my game whenever I start a new save, if I ask the boardroom to increase the wage budget, they'll always agree to it and normally put at least £100k+ extra into the wage budget even when I'm lowly teams like Hull! I'm not complaining though, because I'm a transfer muppet :p
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Interesting :D

Loving this 1st season on my game, I'll post a screenie soon with the league finish!
 
Probably no more FM for me.

I improved my team A LOT in comparison to last season, but the results are the same, if not a bit worse.

Its random, there is no pattern. I can play my best or worst players, it won't effect the result. Its pre-determined from the start.

I see now way how I can improve my team, mostly because in my eyes, its worth MUCH more than the 9th place I am now.

As you know, I'm not some new player. I'm played FM 'hardcore' for the last 4 years minimum. I've completed challenges, and put a lot of hours into FM, but this is different. In previous versions, a few good signings will always put you up the table the next season. This season, there is no improvement. I always find that each season, one player just performs badly, ALWAYS. Irrelevant of how much you play him, in position or not, he will never perform. With Sociedad it was Gaitan. With Swansea its Kana-Biyik. Both have very good stats, and they were played in their fave. position, but they only got sub par ratings. Its just not fun anymore, mostly because I just can't see it ending well. I will probably just finish mid table for as long as I play. No miracle will happen, thats for sure.

I might play the second leg of the Euro Cup (lost the 1st leg 2-0, even though Malaga are 17th in their league :rolleyes:) just to say at least I'm out of everything. Then I'm off, probably until FM15.
 
After my 1st season with Liverpool we finished 2nd in the league behind Chelsea, who also won the league cup and champions league.

We won the FA cup, Man Utd sacked Moyes and Wenger retired.
 
Wow...just wow...Man City are just the same in FM as in real life...just entered my 3rd season as Derby, finished 10th in the previous season in the Prem...City come in with a tidy £38M bid for Will Hughes...yeah, City, do one. He ain't for sale, oh, and PSV and Hannover, hands of Apostolos Vellios, not even for £9M (he cost me £220K)...
 
The__Malteser said:
Probably no more FM for me.

I improved my team A LOT in comparison to last season, but the results are the same, if not a bit worse.

Its random, there is no pattern. I can play my best or worst players, it won't effect the result. Its pre-determined from the start.

I see now way how I can improve my team, mostly because in my eyes, its worth MUCH more than the 9th place I am now.

As you know, I'm not some new player. I'm played FM 'hardcore' for the last 4 years minimum. I've completed challenges, and put a lot of hours into FM, but this is different. In previous versions, a few good signings will always put you up the table the next season. This season, there is no improvement. I always find that each season, one player just performs badly, ALWAYS. Irrelevant of how much you play him, in position or not, he will never perform. With Sociedad it was Gaitan. With Swansea its Kana-Biyik. Both have very good stats, and they were played in their fave. position, but they only got sub par ratings. Its just not fun anymore, mostly because I just can't see it ending well. I will probably just finish mid table for as long as I play. No miracle will happen, thats for sure.
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I agree with most of your points and understand your frustration. I don't understand how FM14 is both 'random' and 'pre-determined' though. Unless you're saying that you think there is a randomly generated pre-determined path (pre-season?) which you think explains how inconsistent/unrealistic the game is when played through? I have always felt that due to the obvious lack of class/brains at SI, that they're akin to cowboy builders, doing what it takes to make it look just about acceptable (apart from their unforgivable default skin designs), but knowing full well that it's full of bodge.

I have never mentioned this before, as I had not tested my theory, but in FM13 whenever I was due to meet a rival, or just play a massive game, I would get a big injury loss almost all of the time. This is not a tested theory by any means, but SI always come across to me as the types who would do this, just because they don't have a clue about making a proper, well-balanced AI which doesn't need these cheats. Because I have this 'SI are clueless' thought going round my head all of the time when playing, I know it's because they have failed to impress me at all with their game.
 
Jimmy Hillbilly said:
I agree with most of your points and understand your frustration. I don't understand how FM14 is both 'random' and 'pre-determined' though. Unless you're saying that you think there is a randomly generated pre-determined path (pre-season?) which you think explains how inconsistent/unrealistic the game is when played through? I have always felt that due to the obvious lack of class/brains at SI, that they're akin to cowboy builders, doing what it takes to make it look just about acceptable (apart from their unforgivable default skin designs), but knowing full well that it's full of bodge.

I have never mentioned this before, as I had not tested my theory, but in FM13 whenever I was due to meet a rival, or just play a massive game, I would get a big injury loss almost all of the time. This is not a tested theory by any means, but SI always come across to me as the types who would do this, just because they don't have a clue about making a proper, well-balanced AI which doesn't need these cheats. Because I have this 'SI are clueless' thought going round my head all of the time when playing, I know it's because they have failed to impress me at all with their game.
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I don't know how to explain it. It feels to me that it is based more on some complicated algorithm, which gives less importance to your player stats. Yes, I know form, morale, formation, formation familiarity, the attitude of the players (if they perform in big games etc.), if you have your set pieces right, player roles, home/away etc. but surely 50% has to be based on the players' stats. The fact that nearly always the pest team wins the league (in real life) shows that a lot of importance should be put on the attributes.

I might give it a last chance with a narrow formation, some 4-3-1-2. I struggles a lot with wide formations in FM13, but did well with a narrow one. I'll give it a thought.
 
The__Malteser said:
I don't know how to explain it. It feels to me that it is based more on some complicated algorithm, which gives less importance to your player stats. Yes, I know form, morale, formation, formation familiarity, the attitude of the players (if they perform in big games etc.), if you have your set pieces right, player roles, home/away etc. but surely 50% has to be based on the players' stats. The fact that nearly always the pest team wins the league (in real life) shows that a lot of importance should be put on the attributes.

I might give it a last chance with a narrow formation, some 4-3-1-2. I struggles a lot with wide formations in FM13, but did well with a narrow one. I'll give it a thought.
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I agree it's out of balance. I'm having a week off (almost 5 days now) and coming back to it with a fresh head. Hopefully it will be patched soon.
 
I've not played it for ages.

I had started 2 separate games as Spurs.

On both occasions, my assistant manager has picked exactly the same teams for pre-season friendlies. Also, clubs are signing the exact same players 2nd time around as they did in my first game save. It's almost as if the game is on rails.

I'm sure it's not but it certainly doesn't have my full confidence at the moment. I won't be rushing back to it in a hurry.
 
fozzybear said:
I've not played it for ages.

I had started 2 separate games as Spurs.

On both occasions, my assistant manager has picked exactly the same teams for pre-season friendlies. Also, clubs are signing the exact same players 2nd time around as they did in my first game save. It's almost as if the game is on rails.

I'm sure it's not but it certainly doesn't have my full confidence at the moment. I won't be rushing back to it in a hurry.
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I think the signings might be from a real life shortlist which each club has, so at the start (2013-14) they would always try to sign the same players?

This wouldn't explain the friendlies though.
 
I dont think they buy the same players everytime, on my first few goes Lewandowski was signed by Bayern Munich from the start, the 3rd go he wasn't.

I played as Arsenal, signed just him and won the league, he scored 31 Premiership goals!
 
Come on Derby...I have signed some true quality this season (Ravel Morisson, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Kyle Bartley) and my team can't win for love nor money...tried various tactics and the only ones that are half-decent are 4-4-2, 4-1-4-1 or 3-2-2-2-1, but I just can't win, I score goals, but let more in...
 
Jimmy Hillbilly said:
I think the signings might be from a real life shortlist which each club has, so at the start (2013-14) they would always try to sign the same players?

This wouldn't explain the friendlies though.
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Yeah it's always been like this AFAIK.. first season, clubs have players they are interested in.

I came back to this thread to see if the game has been fixed yet (getting tired of the BF4 grind now..), but I guess not.

Could this be the last FM for many vet players?
 
Jaffa_Far said:
Come on Derby...I have signed some true quality this season (Ravel Morisson, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Kyle Bartley) and my team can't win for love nor money...tried various tactics and the only ones that are half-decent are 4-4-2, 4-1-4-1 or 3-2-2-2-1, but I just can't win, I score goals, but let more in...
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Sam here. I score a lot, but concead way more. This season its A BIT better.
Flying_Hellfish said:
Yeah it's always been like this AFAIK.. first season, clubs have players they are interested in.

I came back to this thread to see if the game has been fixed yet (getting tired of the BF4 grind now..), but I guess not.

Could this be the last FM for many vet players?
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I don't consider myself a real vet (been playing since FM 09. Before that, Champ Manager 5 only) but when I played, I played to death. I'll be fully back on FM15.

Still not 100% done with 14 mind you.
 
Jimmy Hillbilly said:
I have always felt that due to the obvious lack of class/brains at SI, that they're akin to cowboy builders, doing what it takes to make it look just about acceptable (apart from their unforgivable default skin designs), but knowing full well that it's full of bodge.

I have never mentioned this before, as I had not tested my theory, but in FM13 whenever I was due to meet a rival, or just play a massive game, I would get a big injury loss almost all of the time. This is not a tested theory by any means, but SI always come across to me as the types who would do this, just because they don't have a clue about making a proper, well-balanced AI which doesn't need these cheats. Because I have this 'SI are clueless' thought going round my head all of the time when playing, I know it's because they have failed to impress me at all with their game.
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Did you actually read this through before you posted it?

What utter nonsense :rolleyes:
 
Personally I am enjoying this years version of FM very much, the last time I enjoyed it this well was about 2008/2009.

A big thing that I find to help enjoy the game is to install graphical mods and other tweaks like fixing the fake names for competitions into the real ones. Then you can get other skins which people make.

Sadly there is a big downfall on the FM community scene, I owned a few good sites over the years. Throw-in.com and Unbelievable-Jeff.com, the latter still being ran by somebody else and I administrated many other sites in my 10 years on in the FM community.

Basically my advice is visit some of the SI affiliated fan sites. They used to offer great interactivity, not sure about now however.
 
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