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Downloading now :D Now which team to play as... might start with my original home town club, the mighty Cobblers, better known as Northampton Town

Finished 15th in first season and 12th in second season. Board are happy but I've had to trim my squad for finance reasons.. just got new coaches to try and get some youth up to speed quicker... fingers crossed
 
Does anyone know how often a club's debt gets updated on the Information screen? Playing as Man Utd and the debt seems to be constantly at £300m despite the club paying off £10.7m a month. Does the debt only get updated once a year, perhaps in April with the start of a new financial year?
 
I can't remember which edition of the game it was (I think it was last year), but I did get a message (playing as Manchester United, obviously) saying the debt had been paid off.

Have the numbers not changed on the finances page of the club.
 
Does anyone know how often a club's debt gets updated on the Information screen? Playing as Man Utd and the debt seems to be constantly at £300m despite the club paying off £10.7m a month. Does the debt only get updated once a year, perhaps in April with the start of a new financial year?

The debt gets updated as and when the payment is made, so if that £300m is not decreasing then that £10.7m is paying off something else. Do you have any expensive transfer clauses?
 
I can't remember which edition of the game it was (I think it was last year), but I did get a message (playing as Manchester United, obviously) saying the debt had been paid off.

Have the numbers not changed on the finances page of the club.
Going by the Man Utd thread on SI Forums, the debt gets paid off in January or February 2017.

The debt gets updated as and when the payment is made, so if that £300m is not decreasing then that £10.7m is paying off something else. Do you have any expensive transfer clauses?
I loaded up FM to get screenshots of debt amount, loan repayments and interest (which is separate to transfer expenditure on the expenditure tab of finances screen) and my transfer clauses screen to show that I'm not paying out anything like £10.7m a month. Because of the debt there's very little money for transfers and wages so it's a case of treading water until 2017 when I hope the debt gets paid off and by all accounts, there's a lot more money to play with. So there's no way I would have enough money to buy players and spend anything like £10.7m a month to spend on instalments.

So anyway, I was ready to get a screenshot of the debt amount when I saw that the debt amount was £289m not £300m! It's September 21st so it must happen around September 20th/21st each month. I stopped playing last night because it was a home game v Liverpool in the league! Hmm, now that is suspicious. Very suspicious! FM making me look a prize idiot! :D

I wonder if September 20th/21st is just for Utd or all clubs. :confused:
 
Haha, forgot to take the ball before he started running. Hate dumb **** like that in the FM engine, they really should sort it out by now. I had a similar one the other day where my GK came out to collect under no pressure then retreated back for no reason allowing striker to boot it past him.

People say it's to simulate silly mistakes as you get in real life but some of them are just too silly seems more like a bug to me.
 
Haha, forgot to take the ball before he started running. Hate dumb **** like that in the FM engine, they really should sort it out by now. I had a similar one the other day where my GK came out to collect under no pressure then retreated back for no reason allowing striker to boot it past him.

People say it's to simulate silly mistakes as you get in real life but some of them are just too silly seems more like a bug to me.
Indeed. I can accept professional players might occasionally make mistakes like that but the number of errors they make per match is ridiculous. I often have a player passing a ball only to kick in right into a colleague and then an opposition player gets the ball off them. :rolleyes:

Then there's the graphical bug where 2-3 of my players will be right next to a player from the other team who has the ball. If one of them stuck their leg out it'd either be a tackle and we'd get the ball back or it'd be a foul and a free-kick. That's how close all of my players are. But do they tackle the opposition player? No! They just run back and forth around him. :rolleyes:
 
Cool. :) Sometimes they'll say they've already had that reported in which case you know it should be fixed for FM15. Well, hopefully fixed! :D

The yearly release schedule of FM does annoy me a tad. SI might fix the bug I've spotted (assuming it is a bug) but the new features will introduce more bugs. It's almost like once they've had your money, fixing bugs isn't that important.
 
Haha, forgot to take the ball before he started running. Hate dumb **** like that in the FM engine, they really should sort it out by now. I had a similar one the other day where my GK came out to collect under no pressure then retreated back for no reason allowing striker to boot it past him.

People say it's to simulate silly mistakes as you get in real life but some of them are just too silly seems more like a bug to me.

Something I read a year or 2 back is that the 3D match engine doesn't have enough animations to show every move, so mistakes like the above are genuine mistakes (which you see across most leagues each weekend), but poorly shown by the match engine.

Doesn't stop it being annoying as hell, but if that rings true, it's more the player's fault than the match engine's. :p
 
The yearly release schedule of FM does annoy me a tad. SI might fix the bug I've spotted (assuming it is a bug) but the new features will introduce more bugs. It's almost like once they've had your money, fixing bugs isn't that important.
Yeah. There was a theory that the odd releases in the series were revolutionary, and therefore had lots of bugs, and even releases were evolutionary, that is tried to fix the bugs. It stemmed from FM05 being the first in the series, so FM05, FM07, FM09 etc were the releases with new features and therefore bugs and that FM06, FM08, FM10 were the evolutionary releases that tried to fix the bugs. I'm not sure if that theory ever worked.

Something I read a year or 2 back is that the 3D match engine doesn't have enough animations to show every move, so mistakes like the above are genuine mistakes (which you see across most leagues each weekend), but poorly shown by the match engine.

Doesn't stop it being annoying as hell, but if that rings true, it's more the player's fault than the match engine's. :p
I remember reading a blog with Miles where he mentioned the animator for the series demanding some expensive software to let him extend the range of animations so the game appeared more realistic.
 
Then there's the graphical bug where 2-3 of my players will be right next to a player from the other team who has the ball. If one of them stuck their leg out it'd either be a tackle and we'd get the ball back or it'd be a foul and a free-kick. That's how close all of my players are. But do they tackle the opposition player? No! They just run back and forth around him. :rolleyes:

That *might not* be a bug Marc. Have you got pressing enabled in the tactics? Or stand off? Plus, every player has a tackling ability - and then there is the probability of a successful tackle.
 
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