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*****Official Ivybridge Review Thread*****

Hopefully this isn't a stupid question but does the Asus P8P67 now support these CPUs as of the 3207 bios update or is the new support they mention in that update relating to the sandybridge-E processors? The link they give on the asus site to more information doesn't actually go anyway :/

Also is there any performance hit by using a P67 board with these opposed to a fully supported from the off Z77 board?
 
stulid said:
The list of boards is here - http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/ - yours supported it from BIOS version 2001.

Theres no way a Sandybridge-E will fit, its a completely different socket type.
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Oh well that's a nice bit of info, and lol yep i was thinking of something else re: the second part of your post i think :p

Cheers for the info :) might snap myself up a 3770k then if i can dodge it past the missus.
 
The only real reason to get a 3770K for me is so that I'm not stuck with a 3570K wishing I had the top model :p

Have you seen any benchmarks which I can use to con myself into justifying a 3770K? :)
 
jwsg said:
but anything that results in temperature rise is never good for reliability
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True, but obviously if heat cycling causes the interface to crack and cause an air gap, that will be even worse for reliability and could lead to overheat/failure.

I can see why Intel changed it, reliability for the majority (stock speed users) is king. Overclockers would have been the last thing on their minds.
 
MonsterMoshi said:
Absolutely THIS^^
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Can't get the 3570K because I'll wish I had the 3770K instead.

Can't get the 3770K because I'll wish I had saved the money because there's no real difference in any task I'll ask of it.

The solution : Justify to myself that the 3770K is the best choice. :)

So I just need to cherry pick benchmarks that show the 3770K better than the 3570K.... anyone?
 
The Halk said:
Can't get the 3570K because I'll wish I had the 3770K instead.

Can't get the 3770K because I'll wish I had saved the money because there's no real difference in any task I'll ask of it.

The solution : Justify to myself that the 3770K is the best choice. :)

So I just need to cherry pick benchmarks that show the 3770K better than the 3570K.... anyone?
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Why not just go S2011 and get a 3960X like a boss so you have the top model:p
 
Quicken said:
Because its the latest tech!. Most people just want the latest every other year and be done with it. Dont care if it is £30 more, I spent that on a chinese last night (Twas nice too!).
It's just progress!, And i can get rid of that "Maybe i should have" feeling for the next year or two, instead of saving a very few pounds. Anything over 4.5 which i hope for 24/7 will be pretty pointless in the real world anyway.
Just my opinion.
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I was also concerned about the "Maybe i should have" feeling, if I'd have gone IB or SB. Spending more on an IB setup might have left me with that feeling, just as much as going for SB. If I had spent more on IB and got, say 4,4Ghz @ reasonable temps, I think I would have been thinking "maybe I should have saved some money and bought the alternative which would almost certainly be running cooler. I think that the lack of significant performance gap between IB and SB makes the decision very difficult, unless you just want the latest thing.
 
Dervious said:
I was also concerned about the "Maybe i should have" feeling, if I'd have gone IB or SB. Spending more on an IB setup might have left me with that feeling, just as much as going for SB. If I had spent more on IB and got, say 4,4Ghz @ reasonable temps, I think I would have been thinking "maybe I should have saved some money and bought the alternative which would almost certainly be running cooler. I think that the lack of significant performance gap between IB and SB makes the decision very difficult, unless you just want the latest thing.
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You couldn't have put it better! I am sitting here trying to decide which way to jump. It seems that obvious choice is to go for the latest technology and hope it lasts but it is hard to see Ivy lasting as well as Sandy will. Ivy doesn't seem to have any obvious benefits - unless one needs a room heater!

I think I will go for the Sandy but really don't know whether to go fir the Z68 or the newer Z77 motherboard. Any ideas?
 
The Halk said:
In total, yes, but at a fair overclock the CPU temperature itself is higher.
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And from the point of view of heating your room it still pumps out less heat than SB - every review has shown IB uses less power whether it's at stock or overclocked. The only reason the temperature if higher is because the chip is less efficient at getting the heat away.
 
Jokester said:
And from the point of view of heating your room it still pumps out less heat than SB - every review has shown IB uses less power whether it's at stock or overclocked. The only reason the temperature if higher is because the chip is less efficient at getting the heat away.
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Ah, sorry Jokester I now see what you were saying in context. I didn't realise you were replying to someone talking about the heating the room, I thought you were talking to someone about differences between SB and IB for overclocking.

Context is everything :)
 
prescott28 said:
So it will be interesting to see what OCUK come up with in Over-clocked Bundles. from what I have seen the heat isn't too bad up to 4.5GHz but then rises steeply.
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Indeed, and it seems to all come down to the CPU. Motherboards don't seem to have much influence on things...

On top of that I don't see that above 4.5Ghz has a real use for anything outside of benchmarking, beyond that thermals and power consumption rise too much, and the potential gain from 4.5Ghz to 5Ghz in performance isn't significant.

I chose IB for my upgrade rather than SB because I don't think it'll see any use above 4.5Ghz, and I suspect it'll most likely sit at stock volts and a moderate overclock for most of it's life.
 
Sorry, it was in reply to prescott28's post above it. I just wanted to clear up any ambiguity as regards the CPU temperature and the actual thermal energy it pumps out as a lot people believe that temperature is pretty much a direct measurement of how much power something uses.
 
Oh, while you're at it Jokester, did you see anything about rumours IB has thermal paste not solder? Do you think that means it's time for you to get the razors out again like you did with the Athlon 64s?
 
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