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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

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HWiNFO there is a new beta, quite a few sensor readouts are now fixed. Some still exist due to how "access" to monitoring data has been given to dev, plus SMU firmware needs an update, source someone close to AMD. I have noted at least ~100mV difference of VCORE in HWiNFO vs measured on DMM.

Next some testing I had been doing comparing what I set in bios vs actual VCORE measured on DMM, mobo C6H.

CPU Stock (R7 1700), so ACB is 3.2GHz = ~1.089V steady on DMM for VCORE with x264.
I set 3.7GHz ACB OC, I do no "funky" stuff else in UEFI, set only +0.01875V offset, load x264 = ~1.228V on DMM.
I set 3.8GHz ACB OC, again no "funky" stuff else in UEFI, set only +0.10625V offset, load x264 = ~1.319V on DMM.
I set 3.9GHz ACB OC, again no "funky" stuff else in UEFI, set only +0.19375V offset, load x264 = ~1.409V on DMM.
I set 3.9GHz ACB OC, with LVL 3, set only +0.19375V offset, load x264 = ~1.465V on DMM.

Next format of data:-

+18.75mV offset in bios over +0mV, created actual jump of 139mV.
+106.25mV offset in bios over +0mV, created actual jump of 230mV.
+193.75mV offset in bios over +0mV, created actual jump of 320mV.
+193.75mV offset in bios over +0mV, engage LLC LVL 3, created actual jump of 370mV.

I have scrapped using 3.9GHz ACB OC profile for 24.7 use :( .

Official info on voltage (which you may see in some reviews, in reviewers own words):-

As a general guideline: a CPU voltage of 1.35V is acceptable for driving everyday overclocks of the AMD Ryzen processor. Core voltages up to 1.45V are also sustainable, but our models suggest that processor longevity may be affected. Regardless of your voltage, make sure you’re using capable cooling to keep temperatures as low as possible.

While there are never guarantees with overclocking, the majority of users should find that an 8C16T AMD Ryzen processor will achieve 4.2 GHz @ 1.45V of CPU voltage. Advanced and accomplished overclockers trying to push record frequencies may find more headroom by disabling cores and disabling SMT on motherboards that offer the option in the BIOS.

I'm now going with 3.8GHz ACB OC profile.
 
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Testing out QuadFire under Ryzen at x8 x8 PCI-E 3.0.

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Well more hours of messing about and well im not quite happy with this 1700x think i order 1700 and see if thats any better/equal. Save 40 quid atwards new psu and have spare cooler. Since no matter what i do cant post at 3000mhz mem with 100bclk and no mater how many voltsand tweeking i do 3.94 is max stable at 1.417vcore. After very poor 5820k i got poor 1700x guess my luck sucks :(

I would not bother if i was not jumping from 5820k just wanted equal performance and support amd with my cash. Atm its 800 quid downgrade :/
 
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Well more hours of messing about and well im not quite happy with this 1700x think i order 1700 and see if thats any better/equal. Save 40 quid atwards new psu and have spare cooler. Since no matter what i do cant post at 3000mhz mem with 100bclk and no mater how many voltsand tweeking i do 3.94 is max stable at 1.417vcore. After very poor 5820k i got poor 1700x guess my luck sucks :(

I would not bother if i was not jumping from 5820k just wanted equal performance and support amd with my cash. Atm its 800 quid downgrade :/

Don't think many people get to post at 3000 currently.

3.95 isn't terrible. Have you adjusted voltages other than vcore?

What board is it you are using?
 
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So I managed to pickup a 1700x for almost the same price as a 1700 off the MM. Hopefully I've made the right choice, as I was going to go for 1700 and just OC. I'll still give it a shot with the X though. Should still be a nice jump from an I7 990x though!
 
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So I managed to pickup a 1700x for almost the same price as a 1700 off the MM. Hopefully I've made the right choice, as I was going to go for 1700 and just OC. I'll still give it a shot with the X though. Should still be a nice jump from an I7 990x though!

Speaking of MM, how does one apply to view said thread?
 
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Don't think many people get to post at 3000 currently.

3.95 isn't terrible. Have you adjusted voltages other than vcore?

What board is it you are using?


i tried MAXIMUM safe volts on everything so far invested around 30 hours in tweeking. Im on C6H motherboard with 0902 bios (Its fantastic board loving it !!!!)

Even with 1.5 it wont pass 15 minutes 4gb realbench stress test with memory at 2666 16/16/16/26.
Iw been up till 3am tweeking trying to get 4ghz@100bclk stable. I cant ******* sleep cause of it last 4 days i been sleeping 2-3 hours !!!!

Other thing is with 113bclk i cant use Power state overclocking since change to bclk disables it :/

8pack Thats how i got it going atm 112.6 with 2666 gives 300x 113 is not stable on this cpu since it can pass realbench 1 hour at 3941 cant pass 5 minutes on 395x with any volts.


Ordering 1700 now expected to get more for X version and gotten less like no cooler for start. Took me 8 months to save up for this AMD swap so want my moneys worth.
Even if it does not clock better at lest i save 40 quid and have spare cooler. If XFR still worked with overclock then fair enough but once u start oc XFR is useless shame i not knew that when i preordered :(.
 
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Even if it does not clock better at lest i save 40 quid and have spare cooler. If XFR still worked with overclock then fair enough but once u start oc XFR is useless shame i not knew that when i preordered :(.

How are you saving £40? Surely you'll lose more than £40 when selling the used 1700X?
 
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WOW 1.5V for 4GHz. If I had saved for kit like you state 1.5V I wouldn't even entertain for quick benches.

When I saw my 3.9GHz +193mV offset was actual voltage of 1.465V on DMM, I totally scrapped it.

I'm just going for 3.8GHz ACB OC, this is basically 1.330V under load from x264 on a DMM.
 
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Managed to get 4ghz stable at 1.39v on my 1800x happy with that along with the balanced mode dropping down now.

From reading this I am a bios version behind on the crosshair. Will try the new one when I get in tonight
 
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i tried MAXIMUM safe volts on everything so far invested around 30 hours in tweeking. Im on C6H motherboard with 0902 bios (Its fantastic board loving it !!!!)

Even with 1.5 it wont pass 15 minutes 4gb realbench stress test with memory at 2666 16/16/16/26.
Iw been up till 3am tweeking trying to get 4ghz@100bclk stable. I cant ******* sleep cause of it last 4 days i been sleeping 2-3 hours !!!!

Other thing is with 113bclk i cant use Power state overclocking since change to bclk disables it :/

8pack Thats how i got it going atm 112.6 with 2666 gives 300x 113 is not stable on this cpu since it can pass realbench 1 hour at 3941 cant pass 5 minutes on 395x with any volts.


Ordering 1700 now expected to get more for X version and gotten less like no cooler for start. Took me 8 months to save up for this AMD swap so want my moneys worth.
Even if it does not clock better at lest i save 40 quid and have spare cooler. If XFR still worked with overclock then fair enough but once u start oc XFR is useless shame i not knew that when i preordered :(.

What exactly is happening? Does realbench give give a failed message? Does system reboot? Does screen go black?
 
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i tried MAXIMUM safe volts on everything so far invested around 30 hours in tweeking. Im on C6H motherboard with 0902 bios (Its fantastic board loving it !!!!)

Even with 1.5 it wont pass 15 minutes 4gb realbench stress test with memory at 2666 16/16/16/26.
Iw been up till 3am tweeking trying to get 4ghz@100bclk stable. I cant ******* sleep cause of it last 4 days i been sleeping 2-3 hours !!!!

Other thing is with 113bclk i cant use Power state overclocking since change to bclk disables it :/

8pack Thats how i got it going atm 112.6 with 2666 gives 300x 113 is not stable on this cpu since it can pass realbench 1 hour at 3941 cant pass 5 minutes on 395x with any volts.


Ordering 1700 now expected to get more for X version and gotten less like no cooler for start. Took me 8 months to save up for this AMD swap so want my moneys worth.
Even if it does not clock better at lest i save 40 quid and have spare cooler. If XFR still worked with overclock then fair enough but once u start oc XFR is useless shame i not knew that when i preordered :(.

Try leaving memory at 2133Mhz till you get 4Ghz stable on the CPU. Ditch BCLK clocking and just use the regular memory multipliers. I had little trouble getting mine stable @ 4Ghz and CL14 3200 this way, and have now got the memory to CL13. I never managed to get any BCLK overclocks stable yet. Mind you, i have 4 GPUs in my system so that could be the reason.
 
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