I haven't spun anything in CIGs favour, point out any inaccuracies or full out lies in my post before starting your nonsense. Do I agree with parts of what you said, of course, I'm a critic of some of the BS CIG has pulled over the years, while they do learn from them sometimes they have a habit of repeating them shortly after - particularly in the marketing department and when it comes to outsourcing.
You state " would be madness anyone got in before 2016 to refund"
Also "So is fine to change the terms and conditions, including the refund process, year later after people gave their money in good faith all way back in 2012-13?"
You contradict yourself though, "What we have here is pure scam and money grab".
Hold up so is it good that people refund or not because you seem to think it's both a huge scam and value for money. Where CIG changed the refund T&C they did so giving plenty of notice and in some instances did in the favour of the community (Kickstarter etc have no requirement for refunds, it's left up each KS project to decide. yet KS backers were given them)
I actually think we're probably in the same ball park when it comes to our trust/like of practices CIG have undertaken.
Star Marine incidentally is not a stand alone game, it's a game within the game and was meant to be there to keep backers entertained and allow tweaking of FPS mechanics generally. It's development was originally botched by CIG and Illfonic, mostly CIG though as they appointed a games developer with little experience and very little understanding of what they were making - in part as SC was so early in development. Why they thought they could outsource a key component of all of the games is beyond me but it's one of their biggest and most embarrassing **** ups to date.
and that was a year and half ago, god knows how much since.