Ole's sacked, who next?

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Why are we going for Poch. He is a decent manager but is still a step below Klopp and Guardiola.

Imo he had his chance and lost the League to Leicester City with a far superior squad. Ten Hag needs to be given a chance. He is a future big coach and can see someone nabbing him and becoming great.
 
teenwolf said:
nah oh and ronaldo what is that all about, massive part of the problem.
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Ronaldo has been carrying the team goals-wise for most of this season. He looks as lively as anyone else out there, for all the criticism of him not running hard enough.

adam cool dude said:
Why are we going for Poch. He is a decent manager but is still a step below Klopp and Guardiola.

Imo he had his chance and lost the League to Leicester City with a far superior squad. Ten Hag needs to be given a chance. He is a future big coach and can see someone nabbing him and becoming great.
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The problem is there aren't many coaches at that level. Ten Hag is an equally big gamble. Working at Ajax is nothing like Man Utd for many different reasons.
 
Robbo said:
What? Of course the players are good enough.

There aren't going to be major changes, better to just accept that now.

The immediate issue is very obviously the coaching. We don't look like a coached team and haven't for a long time.
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Hopefully if something does happen, we can get a CDM of some calibre in the transfer window, I think that's needed regardless. Fred/McT/Matic are just not good enough. McT is a squad player I suppose. But, Fred needs to go and Matic retire.

I'd prefer Poch because of his PL experience. ETH might be a bit more of a gamble.

And Poch is a manager, something we've not had for a while now, and someone who can make even Spurs look good, is pretty impressive in my book.
 
adam cool dude said:
Why are we going for Poch. He is a decent manager but is still a step below Klopp and Guardiola.

Imo he had his chance and lost the League to Leicester City with a far superior squad. Ten Hag needs to be given a chance. He is a future big coach and can see someone nabbing him and becoming great.
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exactly, round and round again.
moyes was your man, would have stuck with you would have had some structure and fight by now.
 
teenwolf said:
exactly, round and round again.
moyes was your man, would have stuck with you would have had some structure and fight by now.
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No, we would have been a mid-table side by now with Moyes at the helm. He brought a mid-table manager mentality to United and tried to play that style of football with a side that had just won the league. Moyes is a good manager for the right side but is nowhere near being the calibre required for a top team who wants to win the league or be competing for it every season.

No manager is a guarantee but there are certainly managers who have a far better chance of it than others.

People just get far too caught up in who is good enough to manage top teams. With some, you will never know until they get a chance. Plenty of our fans wouldn't have taken Tuchel because he hadn't won anything of note in their eyes. Plenty don't want Poch because he didn't take a Spurs team that hadn't been invested in for years and win the league or CL. Plenty of people wouldn't have taken Nagelsmann because he hadn't managed at a top team.

Unsurprisingly, until a manager has managed at a top team, you have very little evidence on how they would perform. Managing at Spurs is very different to managing at PSG which is very different to managing at United. I think Poch is worth a go.

The biggest mistake you can make these days is to stick with a failing manager for too long. And by failing, I mean not progressing. If a manager is making your team better year on year through their coaching and tactical input then you are onto a winner. If they are only ever improving the squad by buying new players then they are probably not a good manager.

United are so poorly run that we can't see the writing that is on the wall with a poor manager until things become so awful that their hand is forced.

You can bet your bottom dollar that when Guardiola and Klopp leave, both sides will have a proper succession plan in place and both of them will replace their manager if he is not delivering on expectations. They won't wait until they are sitting mid-table.
 
YOu need to get DiCanio in. You need a hard man crazy type to keep Ronaldo's ego in check. Ronaldo is going to be poisonous to your club in this transition period and without someone around to give him a regular punch in the face things could get worse really quickly now. Or get Keane in, he'll smash a few heads.
 
wildman said:
YOu need to get DiCanio in. You need a hard man crazy type to keep Ronaldo's ego in check. Ronaldo is going to be poisonous to your club in this transition period and without someone around to give him a regular punch in the face things could get worse really quickly now. Or get Keane in, he'll smash a few heads.
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Hmmm. Nope!
 

Rangnick, currently the head of sports and development at Lokomotiv Moscow, is believed to be United's preferred option to manage the club for the rest of the season if they cannot prise Pochettino from PSG.
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I would not be against Rangnick. Interesting character. If he does well, there's the chance he moves into a more senior role to help run the football side of things. German sources make it sound less likely though.

One can dream...
 
Robert said:
Ten Hag doesn’t want united, he’s waiting for Bayern. Also isn’t lured by money as he was/is from a wealthy family.
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Bayern have a long term (potentially) manager in place already.

Most people in elite football are very wealthy, doesn't mean they don't want a better job/more money.
 
Robbo said:
Bayern have a long term (potentially) manager in place already.

Most people in elite football are very wealthy, doesn't mean they don't want a better job/more money.
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I was about to type exactly the same thing. Why does anyone who is wealthy beyond £10m or so ever keep working. The drive that has got them there in the first place usually means they can't just step away. Its rarely about the money and if it is about the money then when they have is never enough and they always want to make more.
 
So Ducker reporting we're talking to five managers about an interim role. Favre, Rudi Garcia, Valverde, Rangnick and a mystery fifth one! lmao. I'm actually impressed we're capable of considering more than one option at a time,
 
Shamikebab said:
So Ducker reporting we're talking to five managers about an interim role. Favre, Rudi Garcia, Valverde, Rangnick and a mystery fifth one! lmao. I'm actually impressed we're capable of considering more than one option at a time,
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Fingers crossed it's Neil Warnock.
 
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