Ole's sacked, who next?
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It must be a really hard spot to be in at the.moment though, especially if there are no candidates that they feel would be an improvement on what they already have or a 'fit' for the United way.
Especially if they are losing confidence in Ole, the thing is there has been no communication from the board yet.
Do you think they will make any announcements regardless if he stays in charge for remainder of the season?
Especially if they are losing confidence in Ole, the thing is there has been no communication from the board yet.
Do you think they will make any announcements regardless if he stays in charge for remainder of the season?
Caporegime
They could keep Ole and get different backroom staff.
Not really that hard a spot. Conte is a serious improvement and a serious manager, and he actually wants the job. Could be a lot worse.
Ole is a dead man walking despite the club having just briefed the press that he's safe for now - we all know he isn't.
That ship has sailed. The players have lost patience with him and there's no coming back from that. Not that I think different staff would change the fact Ole is just not very good.
I think the only problem I could see with Conte is that he doesn't suffer any fools.
I think there are some players who would really not fit with his style, and there would be a.big shake up in the squad.
However Conte did manage Pogba in the 2014 season, a player that had I not known this I thought might he of had issues with. He also had the likes of Vidal and Tevez in his team that year, the type of player United do not have right now.
I think there are some players who would really not fit with his style, and there would be a.big shake up in the squad.
However Conte did manage Pogba in the 2014 season, a player that had I not known this I thought might he of had issues with. He also had the likes of Vidal and Tevez in his team that year, the type of player United do not have right now.
Never heard of ESPN, Manchester evening news, mirror, sun etc? Interesting. Just sounds like your being your typical contrary self tbhWell you said you'd read them
I googled and found a bunch of sites I've never heard of so it just sounds like clickbait to me. If you have read something reliable then share it. Also multiple journalists are talking about Ole's future being in question by the hierarchy, not twitter people. Ducker, Hirst, Stone for example.
Caporegime
What crystal ball has told you he has lost the players?
Pretty much every Man Utd journalist has been told so, by numerous players.
Doesn't take a genius to work it out, either...
Here's a couple:
Caporegime
A Liverpool fan defending reporting from the sun? Wow.
They're all absolute **** tier. No better than quoting someone from twitter (hell most of them get their sources from twitter)
Caporegime
I asked for reliable articles and you started talking about the Sun. Just never thought I'd see that from a Liverpool fan, hell most of them won't even write the name. I love how you keep insulting me despite being brand new here.
You said it was a bunch of sites you'd never heard of, all I did was list a load that are the 1st results from a simple Google of 'Zidane to man u'. If you think me calling out someone being disingenuous is being insulting that not my problem and reflects more on you.
Considering I've never seen you call out the usual vile chants from your fans whenever we play you I think its a bit rich your trying to take some sort of moral high ground.
Considering I've never seen you call out the usual vile chants from your fans whenever we play you I think its a bit rich your trying to take some sort of moral high ground.
No, I clearly didn't. I said they both don't really defend from the front - Ronaldo is clearly far worse in that regard but Fernandes doesn't really defend from the front either, certainly not like a Firmino, Diego Costa, Suarez or Tevez does or did.Did you just compare Ronaldo's pressing to Fernandes
Regarding the rest of your post, you're ignoring the fact that you're playing players out of position just to fit them in. Playing a 4-2-3-1 is some sort of box ticking exercise just so Ole can say he's put Ronaldo, Fernandes, Greenwood + 1 in the side? It doesn't work. And I fail to see how changing system would require you leaving many more players out than you do now. Conte's system at Chelsea was a 3-4-3. Utd could play that without a massive rebuild and would only mean leaving one of the current 4 attacking players out of the side. It would also help Maguire having 2 players either side of him to babysit him, because he looks all at sea when Utd do play high up the pitch and he's got large spaces to defend in. Long term Utd would need to upgrade the central midfield options but that's no different than now.
Soldato
This is something I've often wondered as a solution, a back three where Maguire is supported by two quicker CBs (Varane and if fit Bailly). Maguire is so slow it's unbelievable, which means pushing too far forward leaves him exposed unless a CM is dropping in when he goes forward.
Caporegime
Ok not sure what you're really basing that on (also what the hell is defending from the front if not pressing? This just sounds like you wanting to use a different term)
How do you think we'd line up in a 3-4-3 then?
Caporegime
Lmao are you ******* serious? Have you ever seen me call out homophobia either? No? That must mean I support it then! You must be from twitter.
I didn't know you were the official fan representative on the forum Shami, maybe put it in your signature... 
I actually think it might work quite well. Shaw and Telles can both play in the left sided role, AWB isn't good going forward but we could use someone more offensive ahead of him as a result.
Plenty of options for a back 3. The main weakness is in centre mid but that problem remains no matter who the manager is. Conte might be able to tempt the likes of Barella to join.
I actually think it might work quite well. Shaw and Telles can both play in the left sided role, AWB isn't good going forward but we could use someone more offensive ahead of him as a result.
Plenty of options for a back 3. The main weakness is in centre mid but that problem remains no matter who the manager is. Conte might be able to tempt the likes of Barella to join.
Soldato
The Glazers have not sacked Ole, and are unlikely to do so any time soon, so discussing the pros and cons of conte is a bit of a moot point.
I imagine this whole torrid time will possibly be decided by Christmas when the CL group stage is done (and likely us too!) and we’ve lost or drawn a few more games. At least it ‘might’ have got the management to start looking at alternatives?
This is me trying so very hard to be positive and hope they’re not going to blindly continue with Ole for the long haul.
This is me trying so very hard to be positive and hope they’re not going to blindly continue with Ole for the long haul.
No, I wasn't disputing the term pressing or defending from the front but by saying both Fernandes and Ronaldo aren't very good at pressing/defending from the front isn't comparing them. I'm not very good at football, just like Wan-Bissaka but he's not nearly as bad as me. Whether Fernandes works harder than Ronaldo doesn't mean he's very good at defending from the front. You cannot play a 4-2-3-1 with 4 out and out attackers unless at least 2, if not 3 of them being real workers and Utd are doing it with none.
As for how a 3-4-3 would work, there's plenty of flexibility in how the front 3 could look. You could play Fernandes in that 3 but slightly withdrawn behind a front 2. You could play it similarly to how Chelsea have played it under Tuchel with 2 players fairly central behind 1 striker or with a front 3 using 2 of your wide players. You could even drop Fernandes even deeper and play more of a 3-5-2. As I said in my last post, long term you'd need to upgrade on your central midfielders but you need to do that anyway. The only tricky position is the right wing back but I'm sure Dalot could play there until that's addressed and I've always been of the thought that Utd need somebody better than AWB at RB - a more attack minded player coming in could play both the RB or RWB roles.
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