PC and Console fan boys, Whats the deal ?

The more people gaming (on whatever platform), the better.

I stay out of the console Vs. PC arguments that sometimes occur in the office right up to the point that someone claims that "The human eye can't tell the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps at 1080p."
 
This has always happened, at the minute £350 will net you better price/performance (from a pure technical POV) from a console, as PC technology improves and consoles stay the same that £350 will eventually get you a stronger PC comparably.

I know a lot of people who moved to PC gaming from consoles as the Xbox 360 and PS3 were getting towards the end of their lifespan and the money seemed better to them, at the time, spent on a PC.
 
wingman said:
A lot of it boils down to cost and jealousy. I try to realise that I may feel that way when faced with certain situations in my life and instead of going down the immediate route of knocking someone, I look for all the positives in their decision and appreciate how, why and what they bought it for.
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Not for me, not one bit. I had a PC when I was a poor student. Now I can afford a high end gaming PC, I'd much sooner lounge comfortably on my sofa with a pad on my PS4.
 
anticonscience said:
Nice selective quoting there.

:rolleyes:

If I was to buy this PC from Currys

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And then play Battlefield 4 on it I would get these results


Benchmark for the card in the PC

Yet a PS4 achieves 900p at 60FPS on circa medium/high detail. Fifa 15 at 1080p 60FPs, you get the picture. Or maybe you don't. IDK.
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Chill out. I wasn't even sure what you wanted from me, as you said "how is it technically better?", and then followed up and said "obviously it's a more powerful machine". Wasn't entirely sure if you were asking questions for the sake of it.
 
 
Captain Planet said:
Not for me, not one bit. I had a PC when I was a poor student. Now I can afford a high end gaming PC, I'd much sooner lounge comfortably on my sofa with a pad on my PS4.
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A lot of the stupid, pointless arguing comes down to jealousy I think. I wasn't saying any purchase made comes from jealousy, only the arguing.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
No, I think it is that people cannot see the difference between something being technically superior and personal choice.

To clarify, I think next gen consoles are fantastic bits of kit for the money. But the fact is they are technically inferior to a high spec gaming PC. Recognising that fact does not make me a fanboi, it is simple numbers.

I choose to play on a PC because I like the versatility and performance. I also like building them and tinkering. I don't really care if others choose a PC or console. I own and can see the benefits of both. I have always said that as long as we are all gaming and having fun it makes no difference what we use to play games.

However, for any person to try and make out that consoles are technically anywhere near the performance of a gaming PC is simply incorrect. That does not mean that a gaming PC is better for gaming because each person has their own preferences. But on a technical level consoles are always behind. But - they may be more practical. They take up less space, can be used on a TV, can be easier played with friends in a social situation etc etc. But they are just not as technically advanced as a gaming PC.

Think about cars. An F1 car is the pinnacle of technology. Its a powerhouse capable of extreme performance. Would you want an F1 car to drive around london city centre? Probably not. A smart car would probably be better suited to your needs. But that does not change the fact that the F1 car is faster and contains more up to date technology.
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The word that constantly pops up with some peoples arguments though is this word. There is an obvious air of superiority complex amongst many. I mean, come on guys, give me a break! :p
 
Captain Planet said:
The word that constantly pops up with some peoples arguments though is this word. There is an obvious air of superiority complex amongst many. I mean, come on guys, give me a break! :p
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I use the word to try and avoid the word better. It starts to get confusing if I say "a PC technically better" and then go on to say "but that does not mean a PC is better......."

So on and so forth. Not really anything to do with a complex :)

Anyway, coming from a gun toting alpha like you I find your comment amusing :p

Bought any new gun oil lately? :D

<3
 
grudas said:
I think consoles are great for racing games, but the rest IMO just "work" better on PC! Fps especially! I've got nothing against either one of them and having rage attacks over something like that is just nuts
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WTF!? LOL... if you like arcade racing games. :p

mattyfez said:
X box pad is pretty essential for pc racing games, I just wish there was a decent gran tourismo competitor on pc, there's a few that are close but not quite as good.
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Oh lordy!
 
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anticonscience said:
This is just utterly retarded. How can you not see comparing something that costs £350 against something that costs twice, three, four times as much is not even comparable.....I'm not arguing it's not more powerful, it is, but the fact is the price is very relevant, you seem to not want to accept/understand that for some reason.
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It's like a guy in his Porsche blowing away a family of four in a Mondeo at the traffic lights. Yeah, it's faster, but it can't carry four passengers.

Like said, it's all retarded and its's all horses for courses.
 
The argument for price isn't a great one...

Yes, at a base level, a next gen console is marginally cheaper than what you could build an equivalent spec PC for, but if you're prepared to put a bit of work into speccing up a build, you're only talking about £100-150 more for a similarly performing PC. Once you take into account the cost of games, unless you only buy maybe 1-2 games/year, the price difference disappears within months.

I cba to find it, but there was another thread about this, just when the consoles were released, and someone posted a PC spec which was pretty much on a par with the PS4/Xbone for only ~£50 more; given the constant advance of tech, I would imagine you could get similarly close today.

If you're going to use cost as an argument and keep stating how relevant it is, then it's disingenuous to then disregard the cost of the games (since any gaming system is going to be pretty useless without them).

Purely my personal example, and of course others will probably have differing experiences, but I spent more on PS3 games in the 3 years of owning one than I have on PC games since I started gaming in 1997.

Just some examples from Amazon (All rounded up to the nearest £):

Shadow of Mordor (30% cheaper on PC):

PS4 - £37
XB1 - £37
PC - £25

The Evil Within (40% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £42
XB1 - £40
PC - £25

Alien Isolation (10% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £37
XB1 - £40
PC - £32

NBA2K15 (10% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £44
XB1 - £44
PC - £40

Lords of the Fallen (40% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £42
XB1 - £42
PC - £25

Assassin's Creed Unity (11% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £45
XB1 - £45
PC - £40

COD:AW (4-5% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £42
XB1 - £42
PC - £40

FC4 (10% cheaper on PC)

PS4 - £44
XB1 - £44
PC - £40

Some of those differences are ridiculous, and if you buy smart (e.g. in Steam sales) then they can be even cheaper, however, an average of 20% cheaper for PC games is not to be ignored.

There's also the fact that many households have a PC anyway, as one is needed for other use, so instead of having a £2-300 PC and a £350 console, you have a £4-500 PC capable of doing both (although granted this is now reducing due to more people using tablets etc).

There's also the fact that when you buy a new console you suddenly have no games, buy a new PC, install Steam/Origin/etc, and you still have a huge back-catalog - I've recently ditched my PS3 (well, actually I still have it for use as a BR player :p). At the time, I had the choice of a PS4 or a PC for similar cost. I ended up going for the PC, as what I could get second hand was far superior to what the PS4 could offer*, not to mention having access to all of my Steam games (and lovely low prices for all the PC games that I'd not played for the last couple of years). If I'd bought a PS4, I would have then had to also pay at least another £30-40 just for one game to play on it!

By all means, consoles have their place - so much easier to just turn on, and veg out on the sofa without having to faff with drivers, settings, installation, etc. but the cost/performance argument is a very weak one when everything is taken into account.

*I ended up with an i5-2500/16GB RAM/128GB SSD/2TB HDD/GTX 750ti OC, which cost me a total of £350, this was when the PS4 was still £400+
 
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BuffetSlayer said:
I use the word to try and avoid the word better. It starts to get confusing if I say "a PC technically better" and then go on to say "but that does not mean a PC is better......."

So on and so forth. Not really anything to do with a complex :)

Anyway, coming from a gun toting alpha like you I find your comment amusing :p

Bought any new gun oil lately? :D

<3
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Just OX24 as always, and I don't buy it, you do with your taxes :p

I wasn't directing at you anyway, I just mean generally - you get the Porsche drivers sneering at the Mondeo drivers. I mean, how douchey! lol
 
Captain Planet said:
It's like a guy in his Porsche blowing away a family of four in a Mondeo at the traffic lights. Yeah, it's faster, but it can't carry four passengers.

Like said, it's all retarded and its's all horses for courses.
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Pretty much what I always say, and I think anyy reasonable person would agree. I used an F1 car vs a smart car in London. Same shizzle. :cool:
 
Captain Planet said:
Just OX24 as always, and I don't buy it, you do with your taxes :p

I wasn't directing at you anyway, I just mean generally - you get the Porsche drivers sneering at the Mondeo drivers. I mean, how douchey! lol
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Touche!! :p

Edit - you ninjad me mid reply!! Yeah I know what you are saying :) OMFG you totally won a race from the lights. I just wasn't expecting that, what with you in a Porsche and me in a Honda CRV!!!
 
Haggisman said:
SNIP well reasoned comments.
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Also don't forget that many console users will also own laptops and/or tablets in order to browse the internet and do things like word processing. When you start to add on those costs, it becomes apparent that actually a PC isn't such an expensive option. I accept that PC users may also have the same (I do), but crucially it is not technically required if you have a PC. Whereas with a console I think it is.

Captain Planet said:
Lets all be fwends Mr murderer-of-finger-food-layed-out-on-a-table.
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My friend one does not simply murder a Buffet, one consumes it with grace and resolve. When one becomes full, one makes like Adam Richman and soldiers on. The slaying of Buffets requires a unique skill set, and supreme mental strength. Planking Chinese Police would do well to study me :)
 
V F said:
Religion = All goes to pot.
Politics = All goes to pot.
Consoles = All goes to pot.
AMD vs NVIDIA = All goes to pot.
Apple vs Microsoft = All goes to pot.
Windows vs OS X = All goes to pot.
AMD vs Intel….

Football teams = All goes to pot.
Two opposites = All goes to pot.

Do people change?
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Meh religion is an obvious choice, atleast it should be...
 
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