Pentagon releases UFO footage

Minusorange said:
Where did I say they were ? It's perfectly logical to assume that these UAP's aren't otherworldly and are just merely way above their paygrade to know what the **** they are

There's plenty of "UFO" sightings that have simply been black projects and it's easier for those wanting to keep these things secret to let people run with the "ermagherd it's eeliens" line than have them asking which country they belong to

If I was a betting man I'd say these things are super top secret next next gen drones that the military has wanted to test against unwitting pilots in their own military because they can filter down orders from the top to not engage these "phenomena" that are intruding in airspace that if it was a conventional aircraft would likely get shot down for being in military airspace

They're running the "They're not ours" line because they don't want China/Russia/etc to know they have such a capability, why suddenly after over 80 years of UFOlogy does the military want to come clean ? Not buying it, they know exactly what they are and this is just a diversion to keep these things secret for a while longer
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I didn’t claim you said the pilots were on the payroll of a conspiracy, I was asking you if you thought they were?

Your speculation is a possible solution but how do you think it fits it into what we already know? Do you think TTSA / Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon etc were being duped by the Pentagon all along or do you think they are actually part of spreading this cover narrative to dupe foreign powers and internal Navy staff?

I’m agnostic as to what these are, I’ve no reason so far to be suspicious of the chain of events with the UAP task force that got us to this point. I’ve stated loads of times on these forums there is no evidence UFOs / UAPs or whatever you want to call them are extraterrestrial. However I’m still fascinated because I love a good mystery. If they are ours then this technology is very exciting and if this is a big propaganda dupe against foreign powers and the Navy then again that is an incredible story.
 
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MookJong said:
Do you think TTSA / Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon etc were being duped by the Pentagon all along or do you think they are actually part of spreading this cover narrative to dupe foreign powers and internal Navy staff?
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I think it's a bit of both with them, some are in on it, some are not, difficult to tell who though although I'd imagine Tom and the general government folk like Mellon are being duped while the "ex" CIA dudes are definitely part of the deception helping to convince the others the deception is real and spread the lie

They have form for this too with the likes of Stephen Greer who made a career out of charging people to sit in a field and look at invisible UFO's
 
Minusorange said:
I think it's a bit of both with them, some are in on it, some are not, difficult to tell who though although I'd imagine Tom and the general government folk like Mellon are being duped while the "ex" CIA dudes are definitely part of the deception helping to convince the others the deception is real and spread the lie

They have form for this too with the likes of Stephen Greer who made a career out of charging people to sit in a field and look at invisible UFO's
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If what you say is true I feel very sorry for the Pilots and radar operators coming forward to speak to the media. I believe they are genuinely concerned for what they have been seeing. How will history view the duping of these people if the truth eventually came out. Maybe the Pentagon lie is out of control and into the mainstream…now they have to double down and keep going or it would be a PR disaster.

Greer is everything wrong with this subject currently, I don’t think he is part of some conspiracy. I think he is just a snake oil salesman, narcissist and fantasist. Nobody in the government confirms anything he says about briefing them during the 90s. He had some chance meetings with Clinton insiders which he has blown up into a full scale scam business.

Elizondo has openly said he wants to “destroy Ufology”, I couldn’t agree more, the topic and the people shilling off it make it a laughing stock. This is partly why for the moment I am following this story with an open mind.
 
Any belief will be based on the evidence the Pentagon present, we haven’t seen it yet.

Even Joe Rogan thought Delonge was full of ****, Corbell clearly has some good contacts, but this is the man who made a documentary swooning over Bob Lazar….err no thanks.

You do know Elizondo left TTSA because of Delonge?

All these characters are part of the old world of Ufology, I’m interested in what the military insiders have to say and what happens when science has a proper look at the task force evidence. Elizondo claims this is his aim, all I’m saying is I’m open to a genuine attempt to solve the mystery if there is indeed one as they claim.

if the whole thing is BS then what is happening with high level professionals going on 60 Minutes to tell the world, is a huge story in it’s self. How on earth did we get to a point where they could be duped this badly and this could happen!
 
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The 60 minutes segment aired last night. A pretty good overview of the chain of events with Marco Rubio delivering the all important part about the new UAP taskforce at the end.


Extended interview with with the Nimitz Carrier witnesses.

 
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I thought they did a very good job of presenting the issue. Hopefully we will get some clarity on the subject in June. I fear the information may be delayed for a month though.
 
That's all I'm getting from it.

The way I see it is they're confirming UFO's, but we've known about them for decades

"Flying things in the sky we don't know the origin of exist" has been known already. I can't see this report being too juicy.
 
So the point of the report was to highlight the information coming out from the COVID bill, on the end Rubio tacked on a request for information and investigation of unidentified aerial phenomena being observed by the US military.
 
The report will hopefully formalise and make public the Pentagon's full position on why they believe unknown craft are being detected in restricted airspace. Everyone is saying this is nothing new....but it kind of is! What Rubio and the other senators can then build off the back of it, is a new scientific taskforce to properly investigate and identify in a structured way. One of the main barriers is still the stigma of military personnel reporting these things. It is a ridiculous position that your pilots and radar operators don't report what could be foreign spy drones because they are worried they might get laughed at for seeing a "UFO".

This is why as I said before Ufology as an industry needs to be eradicated and this should go back into the hands of professional scientific investigators like those of the 1950s and 60s when the military were taking the subject seriously.
 
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Following on from the 60 minutes bits above...

Bombshell UFO Report: U.S. Military Encounters UFOs ‘Every Day’ That Far Exceed Its Tech, Capabilities
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/bomb...ery-day-that-far-exceed-its-tech-capabilities

On one hand it's pretty cool that this sort of thing in more recent years has been getting serious attention and being looked into by more official bodies than just UFO enthusiasts. Not saying it's aliens, but something is going on that is being kept secret by a bunch of folks this much is certain I guess.
 
Military people have an agenda though for more military spending so I take what they say with a pinch of salt even if they are retired.
there must be better evidence than has been released though.

when Russia does flybys of a carrier we get all these nice quality camera videos, when it's a ufo we only see cockpit footage from infared cameras or whatever
 
TheOracle said:
I've just seen a video posted online that said the covid vaccine has turned us all into alien bioweapons. I reckon something is definitely going on.
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covid is fake, the vaccine is designed to infect aliens when they insert the anal probe and attempt to harvest our DNA

lockdowns are so people don't go outside and see the space ships, masks are so the aliens can't run face recognition to filter out our elite overlords
 
Here's a question for you all.

What if aliens wanted to come here to live as their planet has died. The deal is they clean up our mess and give us technology in return for sharing our planet.
 
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