Pico 4 out soon?

Just-Dave said:
Honestly the quality is **** poor on automobilista 2
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I have that game and the quality is stunning. Matches the Reverb G2 imho (with the right settings), but HVEC makes the world of difference to quality.

I'm just looking at a video capture I've just taken, will try and upload in a sec.

Here's iRacing. I'm testing Ultra quality now, getting pretty damn close. Found that dropping bitrate 50mb reduces latency whilst still looking bloody awesome, but still testing things out.

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What lense covers are people using to protect them when not in use?
I don’t think I’ve managed to get it setup properly yet, tried a few of the free games and quality is so so but I’m guessing that’s because they are free games. Going to buy one to try out soon.
 
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ShiWarrior said:
is that what it looks like "through the lens" ?
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Yeah, not far off in reality. I've maxed out the ingame settings, and whilst the GPU and CPU seem ok, the fps does drop under 90 when there's lots of cars on track. Still very playable though, can't feel anything being off. Just tweaking, lots of different permutations to go through, and of course every game is different. iRacing is my go to, so I'll spend most time working on that.

Might switch back to high settings again, as I think last time I forgot to set the ingame sharpening which makes it come alive.

also, I have enabled the VD dynamic colour thingy. Makes it really pop now, especially with the brightness and gamma settings I mentioned before. Not OLED, but it's not washed out LCD either.
 
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TheOracle said:
I have that game and the quality is stunning. Matches the Reverb G2 imho (with the right settings), but HVEC makes the world of difference to quality.
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It does look better in virtual destop than it does wired, which is odd, even on my crappy EE router,

I tried your settings as well but so far I've been unable to make it look as good it does on quest 2 Let alone a G2
 
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TheOracle said:
Put the VD performance monitor on and see what the stats are.
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Yeah I did buddy, all looked good to to fair statistic wise,
Not having a WiFi 6 router I wasn't expecting much but it was better than I thought it was going be,

As for wired, it's like the headset was running at half the resolution to achieve 90fps, despite being on the HD setting, which seems to be the max available atm,
Will play around with it tomorrow more,
Maybe there is some developer options somewhere, will also try bumping the in game super sampling, but I was already only just hitting the 90fps with it looking that bad,
Failing that I may have to get that router you have and see how it is,
I can achieve a lot better image on my quest 2
 
Just-Dave said:
Yeah I did buddy, all looked good to to fair statistic wise,
Not having a WiFi 6 router I wasn't expecting much but it was better than I thought it was going be,

As for wired, it's like the headset was running at half the resolution to achieve 90fps, despite being on the HD setting, which seems to be the max available atm,
Will play around with it tomorrow more,
Maybe there is some developer options somewhere, will also try bumping the in game super sampling, but I was already only just hitting the 90fps with it looking that bad,
Failing that I may have to get that router you have and see how it is,
I can achieve a lot better image on my quest 2
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Yeah, somethings not right. Steamvr wants to be 100%. What's the latency?

also, what graphics card do you have?
 
Just-Dave said:
Yeah steam vr was on 100%,
I tried it on 150% 200% and nothing changed,
Latency was about 25 -30ish,
I'm on a 3080,
It's like the headset is overriding the steam settings
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Those stats look ok, and u say the image is bad? What codec and bitrate are you using?

also, what's the wifi bandwidth speed? Mine flip flops between 980-1200 but usually stays at 1200

In VD you want high (ultra if you can, but that's a stretch) so in steam at 100% it should be 2800x2800
 
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TheOracle said:
Those stats look ok, and u say the image is bad? What codec and bitrate are you using?
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I tried both codec, didn't really notice a difference to be honest,
The image is very low resolution,
I need to try some other games tomorrow,
Also I tired stand alone rec room and it seemed to be struggling for performance......
Maybe I've got a dud
 
Just-Dave said:
I tried both codec, didn't really notice a difference to be honest,
The image is very low resolution,
I need to try some other games tomorrow,
Also I tired stand alone rec room and it seemed to be struggling for performance......
Maybe I've got a dud
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Doesn't sound right. The only thing I can think of is that if you've had a previous headset installed, steamvr can get confused. You usually have to uninstall and reinstall it.

Double check the VD quality, bitrate and also the actual resolution in steam.
 
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ok , here's my thoughts so far


Pico 4

Default, with no modifications is the most comfortable headset so far, (still prefer the Quest 1 head strap design)

adding the power bank to the strap makes it worse, I was hoping more counterweight, but it makes it "too heavy"

the foam pad is crap, cant play for very long , my forehead hurts after a while, there is no "give" in it at all, its "molded " a certain way and it wont suit everyone's face, certainly not mine


Looking in VR, Words are nice and crisp, actually so are the images

Battery life is rubbish

and playing walkabout mini golf is much harder, due to the tracking ring, you cant hold it with 2 hands very well
 
TheOracle said:
Right, so I've spent all morning testing various settings and benchmarking. The improvements are staggering. I've got it to run and look like my pico3 on displayport. It's stunning, what a difference!!

I still need to test a bit more as I think I can push this further, but I've gone from 72hz okish quality with stuttering, to rock solid 90hz with a crystal clear picture. I monitored VD performance graph and also installed fpsVR.

forgive me if I forget some headings as this is from memory

Router Settings (reboot headset after) - Mines an Asus AX-55

Mode: AP
Band: 5Ghz Only
Mode: AX Only
Channel Bandwidth: 80Mhz
Control: Include DFS Channels
WMM No-Acknowledgement: Enabled
OFDMA: OFDMA DL/UP + MU-Mimo

Headset

Bluetooth - Off
Brightness - 50%
Display - 90Hz

Virtual Desktop

Codec - HVEC

Gamma - 0.75

Quality - High
Framerate - 90
Bitrate - 150
Sharpening - 75%

Spacewarp - Off
Sliced Encoding - On
Video Buffer - Off

Nvidia CC - Latency - Ultra
SteamVR - 100%


I've just played Automobilista2 at a rock solid 90fps, latency never moved from 35ms. Game ran smooth as silk and looked great.

Now don't ask me why, but I think the biggest difference came from going from 72 to 90. Why the latency dropped from 50 to 35 I don't know, but I did have to reboot the headset which would have reconnected the wireless, so maybe the router changes weren't picked up before?
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Mine seems a lot sharper now I’ve done this. Thanks
 
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