Playstation 4 being announced February 20th?

Craterloads · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:23

Alpherah said:
No, im saying there wont be much improvement in quality as the generation progresses, relative to the difference in launch to late in the previous generation, because all the developers are instantly much more familiar with the architecture at their disposal.

And you have what to base this opinion upon?
Previous generations used all sorts of odd combinations and engines, not so this generation.
Ive already explained why there was huge improvements in PS3 quality from launch to recently - who had seen CELL before? who had programmed for it before? no one. Who within these companies has utilised x86/64 architecture and PC like hardware before? all of them. The headroom is much lower this time around.

I'm surprised you need it explaining to you.

Who has programmed for the unreleased AMD 8 core CPU? Or the specifically for the 7870? Who has developed using 8GB GDDR5? Who has specifically developed for the 7870 with low level access (direct to metal)? Who has developed for said hardware without windows and directX overheads and limitations?

That's not even beginning to look at the crux of the issue which comes with engines becoming more efficient for the fixed hardware, offloading stuff elsewhere, & a dozen other things.

The ONLY difference this time will be it won't takes 6 years to maximise the hardware, but maybe 2-3 years but even then things will continue to improve. The nature of fixed hardware is a different beast from PC hardware.

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:24

So what exactly does 8GB of unified memory mean? Is it the end of blocky, pixellated textures?

jojothemonkey69 · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:31

ic1male said:
So what exactly does 8GB of unified memory mean? Is it the end of blocky, pixellated textures?

It depends if Minecraft is released on it or not.

Begbie · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:33

Hoping for some kind of xbmc interface, none of this limited codex nonsense and it's easy a day 1

wannabedamned · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:34

ic1male said:
So what exactly does 8GB of unified memory mean? Is it the end of blocky, pixellated textures?

Elbow room is the best way to describe it lol. Im hoping it means we get some level of aa, and decent draw distances. But it all depends on the dev and game in the end. Regardless of a system and spec, devs will always sacrifice something if we get a worthwhole boost elsewhere. I'd take massive draw distance and solid fps over aa for instance

And yeah. I pray for the day we see mkv support. But I believe its entangled in somesort of licensing issues

easyrider · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:47

That's a point wonder if the PS4 will play MKV's?

If it doesn't then its complete fail.

MOOGLEYS · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:48

ic1male said:
So what exactly does 8GB of unified memory mean? Is it the end of blocky, pixellated textures?

Higher res textures, more textures, further draw distances, less loading, higher levels of anti aliasing etc etc.

8gb is superb for developers and gamers.

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:49

easyrider said:
That's a point wonder if the PS4 will play MKV's?

Why would it? MKV is only used for downloading pirated movies off the net.

(Yes, I know some people rip their own stuff to it as well.)

ColEx · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:53

Do people still think the consoles will be released this year? I am still kinda thinking it will be next year Q3/4.

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:54

ColEx said:
Do people still think the consoles will be released this year? I am still kinda thinking it will be next year Q3/4.

A year late? That would be barmy. I think they'll push Europe to Q1 2014 certainly. There's not going to enough if they haven't started production yet.

GAC · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:55

ColEx said:
Do people still think the consoles will be released this year? I am still kinda thinking it will be next year Q3/4.

educated guess would be north america and japan for christmas and uk europe spring. rest of the world soon after. but who knows, they could do one big worldwide launch but doubtful.

Tummy · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:55

ColEx said:
Do people still think the consoles will be released this year? I am still kinda thinking it will be next year Q3/4.

Last night the announcement said 'Holiday 2013', so yes I think the new Playstation will be out this year.

easyrider · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:58

ic1male said:
Why would it? MKV is only used for downloading pirated movies off the net. (Yes, I know some people rip their own stuff to it as well.)

My TV plays MKV and millions of people back up their prized Blurays to MKV files and stream them over their network.

ColEx · 21 Feb 2013 at 12:59

Tummy said:
Last night the announcement said 'Holiday 2013', so yes I think the new Playstation will be out this year.

Oh i missed that part! It just seems weird that GTA 5 will be released this year on the current gen consoles, and within a few months the new consoles will hit. I'm guessing there will be a next gen version too?

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:00

easyrider said:
My TV plays MKV and millions of people back up their prized Blurays to MKV files and stream them over their network.

I guess it's because your TV can't sell/rent you movies like a console can?

easyrider · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:02

ic1male said:
I guess it's because your TV can't sell/rent you movies like a console can?

It can...Its a smart TV and has Netflix and other online movie services on it...

Your point?

Oh and I can also stream MKV via the network to my TV too.

Lack of MKV support on a console like the PS4 will be fail on every level

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:05

easyrider said:
Your point?

My point - why would Sony/MS facilitate viewing MKV files when they want you to buy the movie from their online store? By blocking MKV you won't be able to watch it so there's a chance you might buy it from them.

Besides, it's not a ratified standard is it?

ic1male · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:06

easyrider said:
Lack of MKV support on a console like the PS4 will be fail on every level

For you, yes. I couldn't give a fig about it. So already that's 1 vs 1.

londonbairn · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:10

Everyone I know who uses MKV is because they downloaded it illegally.

I don't have any use for it, and I own hundreds of blurays. I prefer to enjoy my films in the IQ and sound quality that the format offers, not compressing it.

Tummy · 21 Feb 2013 at 13:10

easyrider said:
My TV plays MKV and millions of people back up their prized Blurays to MKV files and stream them over their network.

Millions? Really?

People tend to exaggerate things like this, not saying I don't believe you, but millions is a huge user base.

ColEx said:
Oh i missed that part! It just seems weird that GTA 5 will be released this year on the current gen consoles, and within a few months the new consoles will hit. I'm guessing there will be a next gen version too?

It was at the very end 'Released holiday 2013'

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I think GTA V might well be released for the new consoles as well as the old consoles. There is no way Rockstar didn't know about the imminent release of the new consoles, so it's either a strong finish for the current generation of consoles or they will bring them out on the new consoles at their release.