Playstation 4 being announced February 20th?

GAC · 24 Feb 2013 at 16:44

ic1male said:
I don't think my ancient Bravia HDTV (720p) is going to do a good job with the PS4. Will have to fork out for a new tele now, too!

im in the same boat. got a older hitachi 720P plasma, its started to ghost a tad in one area on and off so i guess il have to replace it sooner or later.

just hope i have a job by then :rolleyes:

Moothead2 · 24 Feb 2013 at 16:46

ic1male said:
I don't think my ancient Bravia HDTV (720p) is going to do a good job with the PS4. Will have to fork out for a new tele now, too!

GAC said:
im in the same boat. got a older hitachi 720P plasma, its started to ghost a tad in one area on and off so i guess il have to replace it sooner or later.

just hope i have a job by then

I'd recommend thisL http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE40EH5000-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B007IHYP5Y

Great picture for the price and a good size too. It doesn't have any fancy SMART features but you don't really expect any at that price

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GAC · 24 Feb 2013 at 16:53

well when i get around to replacing mine which is a 42" il be looking at a 46"+ just have to dig out all the reviews closer to the time, pointless spending cash before i need to.

ic1male · 24 Feb 2013 at 17:10

Moothead2 said:
I'd recommend thisL http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE40EH5000-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B007IHYP5Y

Looks good but I need Freeview HD. No 3D nor smart but definitely HD.

EDIT: LOL, it is. I must need glasses.

GAC · 24 Feb 2013 at 17:22

ic1male said:
Looks good but I need Freeview HD. No 3D nor smart but definitely HD.

EDIT: LOL, it is. I must need glasses.

Craterloads · 24 Feb 2013 at 18:05

ic1male said:
Looks good but I need Freeview HD. No 3D nor smart but definitely HD.

EDIT: LOL, it is. I must need glasses.

I picked up this one (well 1 model up) and has been excellent for gaming and 3D.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007IYW3KG/ref=nosim/?tag=hotukdeals-21

I found 40" to small but i guess it depends on your preference.

ic1male · 24 Feb 2013 at 18:37

Wonder if the PS Eyetoy camera whatdyoumacalltits will do the same voice recognition for games as Kinect does today.

LeJosh · 24 Feb 2013 at 18:38

Edit - woah, wrong page.

I liked the Capcom video, if it was actually real time gameplay but I think it wasn't.

biron_w · 24 Feb 2013 at 21:58

Moothead2 said:
I'd recommend thisL http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE40EH5000-40-inch-Widescreen-Freeview/dp/B007IHYP5Y

Great picture for the price and a good size too. It doesn't have any fancy SMART features but you don't really expect any at that price .

I'd recommend getting a Panasonic plasma TV for gaming. Their refresh rate is much better than LED's.

will13 · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:13

biron_w said:
I'd recommend getting a Panasonic plasma TV for gaming. Their refresh rate is much better than LED's.

Don't you run the risk of image retention with plasma's though?

ic1male · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:23

Are plasma TVs still really heavy?

Psycho Sonny · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:30

biron_w said:
I'd recommend getting a Panasonic plasma TV for gaming. Their refresh rate is much better than LED's.

everything is better imo apart from power consumption

price
black levels
motion handling
picture quality

a £600 plasma will beat a £1500 LED in terms of PQ, that's how big the difference is.

such a shame the marketing hype has fooled consumers into thinking LED is better because it's thinner.

Psycho Sonny · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:33

will13 said:
Don't you run the risk of image retention with plasma's though?

another myth, much like the re-gassing one, plasma's have improved greatly over the years in terms of retention, so long as you use it normally it should be fine, LCD's suffer from image retention and permanent burn too, just that they are slightly more resistant.

ic1male said:
Are plasma TVs still really heavy?

i can lift our 51" no problem, an 8 series samsung plasma

GAC · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:36

ic1male said:
Are plasma TVs still really heavy?

nah 30kg's for the larger ones or there abouts, not a lot really. worst thing with plasma's is the overall size of them makes them a pain to move on your own.

but beats the hell out of a 90kg 32" flat screen crt.

zpos · 24 Feb 2013 at 23:39

Psycho Sonny said:
another myth, much like the re-gassing one, plasma's have improved greatly over the years in terms of retention, so long as you use it normally it should be fine, LCD's suffer from image retention and permanent burn too, just that they are slightly more resistant.

i can lift our 51" no problem, an 8 series samsung plasma

lol, haven't heard about the re-gassing one for a while!! Used to be really good way to wind plasma purchasers with that. They bit every time

HarryPainful · 25 Feb 2013 at 00:23

Decent plasma > *

imo ofc

Fr0dders · 25 Feb 2013 at 00:34

will13 said:
Don't you run the risk of image retention with plasma's though?

Nope

I've had 120 hours of playing COD, 400 of playing battlefield with the same HUD at the bottom of my screen and not one hint of retention.

Streeteh · 25 Feb 2013 at 07:17

ic1male said:
Are plasma TVs still really heavy?

Managed to lift my 42" plasma from the car, into my living room without any help at all. Size was far more of an issue when carrying it than weight; it was lighter than my very old 32" LCD that it replaced (and thinner; thickness being something plasmas used to gain criticism for). The technology has come a long, long way.

biron_w · 25 Feb 2013 at 07:48

will13 said:
Don't you run the risk of image retention with plasma's though?

I've got a plasma TV that's about 4 years old and I haven't got any "image burn" on it. I'm guessing newer models will have even less chance of getting it either.

Vandal · 25 Feb 2013 at 13:41

will13 said:
Don't you run the risk of image retention with plasma's though?

You do run the risk of image retention. I can tell you this from experience.
Image retention/screen burn is most certainly not a myth - search the Internet for it and you'll see what I mean.

I think the most important thing is to be careful with what you do on a plasma. Don't play the same thing for too long and always 'wash' (not literally! :cool:

) the screen in between gaming sessions with the scrolling bars or with something else (normal TV or something similar) - something which doesn't have a static image.
There are basic precautions you should follow in the first x number of days, for example. This should be covered in the manual to an extent and you'll find guides on t'internet.

I have two plasmas and one LCD.
I have a 60" Pioneer Kuro plasma in the lounge which is used mostly for TV and lightly for games. Never noticed image retention on this one, but if I switch the TV off and look very closely for it there is some - but not noticeable AT ALL for daily use.

I also have a 42" Panasonic - one year old so pretty new - ST (3D) series I think it is.
This is used almost exclusively for games and most definitely suffers from image retention, which I would actually say is now screen burn.

When on a blank(ish) screen I can still see the HUD from BF3. I haven't played BF3 for any meaningful amount of time since just after it came out.
I did hammer BF3 at first

I know now I should have refreshed the screen more and perhaps it wouldn't have happened.
I think this was probably a worst case scenario - bright HUD on a dark background with a new plasma.

I would say over time it's getting slightly better, but I doubt that image will ever fully leave the screen. So I'm not 100% it's 'screen burn' over 'image retention', but I'm pretty sure after 7 months image retention should have disappeared.
It doesn't bother me particularly, because in practical use you don't notice it. You only see it on a static light coloured background. (PS XMB for example).

Even with my experience above, I would defintiely go for a plasma over an LCD (can't comment on LED).
Just be careful and don't assume screen burn won't happen because given the right (wrong?) game, it just might...

V.