Political Correctness Gone Mad Again

Good, it's seriously outdated and extremely tacky tbh.
Now they need to start increasing the ladies prize money, watched a couple of cracking ladies darts matchs this year and think they deserve a fairer slice of the pie in all honesty!

No need to increase their money, they are free to play against the men in any PDC tournaments and win the prize money that is on offer.
 
If you want to look at attractive women there are plenty of places on the net, for instance, to do that, and you'll be able to find some that are right up your street, rather than a random shot at being to someone's fancy. It's a shame if you have to watch darts to inspire you to a w***.

That is a completely ridiculous comment, and you probably well know it.

It’s called a bit of fun. You should try it sometime.
 
I'm confused...
So women like Madonna and Miley Cyrus waving their curvular wobblings around on stage is empowering and liberating, but two ladies walking onto a stage and then walking off again is demeaning?
 
No mention of either book burning or feminism in your linked article so does that make you a fantasist, a lunatic or a liar?

Incidentally, removing a 100+ year old painting by a famous Pre-Raphaelite is inexcusable, I expect that we will soon see statues in museums wearing togas . . . or having "bits" knocked off with hammers.

Perhaps you should do some research to avoid making foolish statements?

Even a causal look at the twitter feed for the galleries curator, Clare Gannaway, would confirm that she could very correctly be said to be a feminist based on her tweets and re tweets..

One of her recent retweets....

'Tonight at @mcrartgallery #takeover #soniaboyce #feministart #performanceart'

I would go further and suggest that her twitter feed shows her to be a fully paid up member of the far left Marxist brigade complete with CND retweets, plenty of tweets about protesting and being a big fan or Marxist Corbyn

and as I am sure you are aware 'book burning' is a widely used synonym for censorship in general most commonly by destroying something or at least removing it from the public sphere.... like in this case

So does that make you a liar or just lazy?
 
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Re: darts

Can we now go back to smoking cigarettes and drinking beer during matches now that women won't be involved anymore?
 
Since I am not an obsessive, terrified of "Reds under the bed", perhaps not.
In view of the fact that what I posted was factually 100% correct, it must make me lazy.


It wasn't factually correct because Tall Paul didn't assert that the article mentioned that she was a feminist.

But the fact remains that it was an accurate description of her that could be inferred from the article linked and confirmed by a small amount of research

It like someone moaning about Teresa May being described, by another, as being a person holding mostly right wing political views because whatever article was linked to didn't explicitly state that Teresa May holds these views....

It is however self evident that this is the case (that Teresa May is a person holding mostly right wing political views) much like its the case that the museums curator, who decided to remove the painting, can accurately be described as a feminist. (more particularly a sex negative 3rd/4th wave feminist who buys into the Marxist explanation for the observable disparities between the sexes... said to be caused solely/ mostly by the oppression of women via the means of a societally constructed patriarchy)

I would also suggest that socialism (and more generally collectivism) is something to be very concerned about...its was after all the ideology that lead to tens of millions of deaths in the last century in both its nationalistic and class/economic forms (with the latter leading the death toll by some margin)
 
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No mention of either book burning or feminism in your linked article so does that make you a fantasist, a lunatic or a liar?

Incidentally, removing a 100+ year old painting by a famous Pre-Raphaelite is inexcusable, I expect that we will soon see statues in museums wearing togas . . . or having "bits" knocked off with hammers.
Lunatic please. Take everything with a liberal dash of salt ;)
 
It wasn't factually correct because Tall Paul didn't assert that the article mentioned that she was a feminist.

But the fact remains that it was an accurate description of her that could be inferred from the article linked and confirmed by a small amount of research

It like someone moaning about Teresa May being described, by another, as being a person holding mostly right wing political views because whatever article was linked to didn't explicitly state that Teresa May holds these views....

It is however self evident that this is the case (that Teresa May is a person holding mostly right wing political views) much like its the case that the museums curator, who decided to remove the painting, can accurately be described as a feminist. (more particularly a sex negative 3rd/4th wave feminist who buys into the Marxist explanation for the observable disparities between the sexes... said to be caused solely/ mostly by the oppression of women via the means of a societally constructed patriarchy)

I would also suggest that socialism (and more generally collectivism) is something to be very concerned about...its was after all the ideology that lead to tens of millions of deaths in the last century in both its nationalistic and class/economic forms (with the latter leading the death toll by some margin)
I couldn't have put it more eloquently. I'm not nearly as capable as many other posters on here. But when I smell fish it's usually because it's a fish.
 
so, not sure if they actually still do this cos i don't watch game shows, but are they also going to campaign to get shot of the girls that stand prettily and point at the prizes etc?
 
Really? when I look around my town on a summers day and see the various shapes and sizes of a great many people (men and women) I would say that isn't the case at all.
Look more at how many people spend way too much money on make up and clothes and fake tans and beauty magazines and therapy over how they don't think they're beautiful.
Why is it your stereotypical wife never asks you if her outfit meets the dress code, or has enough pockets for her EDC fem-junk, or will be warm enough for the weather outside, or even if it looks cool - She always asks if it makes her look fat.... I'm no fem-expert, but I think that means it matters!! :D

Yes, to cater to the apparent inability for men to think with anything other than their ****. If this wasn't the case, you wouldn't only ever see them in male-focused activities.
Where does this apparent inability come from, though?
Did we create it, or has it been created as a marketing strategy?

Never seen a Diet Coke advert?
Diet Coke is a feminine product, now?

Women are generally less attracted to visual cues so it's hardly surprising that we see less advertising or promotion using the male body
Despite the very famous Diet Coke adverts you just cited... :D

You may have missed it but this thread wasn't about naked women draped over things but was instead about relatively conservatively dressed attractive ladies accompanying darts players in stage.. So there's your 'context'
And again, they're all just guff that gets in the way of seeing the product.
TBH, while I've seen most of these sports and even met a couple of Kawasaki Paddock Girls when a friend of mine was doing their bodypaint, I don't recall ever seeing them at work and wasn't even aware we had Walk-On Girls in darts. I must be immune to their charms...
But since you're on it, the thread is actually about PC Correctness and TV censorship, since you may have missed the thread title and OP... :p

I never said people were 'slaves' to their impulses to the pount that they would buy something solely or even mainly because it was promoted or advertised using an attractive member of whatever sex they were attracted to....
You don't have to... not that I was addressing you specifically, as you'll no doubt have ascertained from properly reading my comment that I was referring to "anyone who believes" - But the mere presence of them in completely pointless advertising roles and contexts already says it loud enough.
It's as unashamedly cheap and tactless as telling you to buy a razor just because it's the same colour as R2D2 or Kylo Ren's Lightsaber.
My comment still stands.

But the evidence is clear people are affected by things like the attractiveness and sex of a person selling something to them...
What sells me on something is the text next to the photo on the website. People don't sell me things and even if they did, their gender and appearance are completely immaterial - If I want something I will buy it. If I don't I won't and no amount of being pretty will change that.

You suggested you were immune to such an effects..... I say that the evidence shows that you are either deluded or deceitful on this point....
Evidence?
From what, studies? Experiments? Pfft - None of them studied or experimented on or factored in folk like me...
'The Evidence' claims a lot of things about a lot of people, but I bet I can find some with such generalisations that don't apply to you, either...

Just that they do have some effect on you even if you are not always totally conscious at the time of these effects
The psychological possibility exists that they might, but the reality is that they don't.
 
Look more at how many people spend way too much money on make up and clothes and fake tans and beauty magazines and therapy over how they don't think they're beautiful.
Why is it your stereotypical wife never asks you if her outfit meets the dress code, or has enough pockets for her EDC fem-junk, or will be warm enough for the weather outside, or even if it looks cool - She always asks if it makes her look fat.... I'm no fem-expert, but I think that means it matters!! :D


Where does this apparent inability come from, though?
Did we create it, or has it been created as a marketing strategy?


Diet Coke is a feminine product, now?


Despite the very famous Diet Coke adverts you just cited... :D


And again, they're all just guff that gets in the way of seeing the product.
TBH, while I've seen most of these sports and even met a couple of Kawasaki Paddock Girls when a friend of mine was doing their bodypaint, I don't recall ever seeing them at work and wasn't even aware we had Walk-On Girls in darts. I must be immune to their charms...
But since you're on it, the thread is actually about PC Correctness and TV censorship, since you may have missed the thread title and OP... :p


You don't have to... not that I was addressing you specifically, as you'll no doubt have ascertained from properly reading my comment that I was referring to "anyone who believes" - But the mere presence of them in completely pointless advertising roles and contexts already says it loud enough.
It's as unashamedly cheap and tactless as telling you to buy a razor just because it's the same colour as R2D2 or Kylo Ren's Lightsaber.
My comment still stands.


What sells me on something is the text next to the photo on the website. People don't sell me things and even if they did, their gender and appearance are completely immaterial - If I want something I will buy it. If I don't I won't and no amount of being pretty will change that.


Evidence?
From what, studies? Experiments? Pfft - None of them studied or experimented on or factored in folk like me...
'The Evidence' claims a lot of things about a lot of people, but I bet I can find some with such generalisations that don't apply to you, either...


The psychological possibility exists that they might, but the reality is that they don't.

If you are a man than I would say you aren't a typical or even your average man, given your posts. Me I'm just off back to my cave, I prefer the ambience.
 
If you are a man
Thank you for not assuming my gender.... not that I'd actually care if you did, but given the topics in the thread you seem to have made the effort and I appreciate the courtesy. :)

than I would say you aren't a typical or even your average man, given your posts.
Yeah, you're probably right.
But The Evidence says we're all the same, apparently....
 
@ttaskmaster

My responses are the ones in bold......

Caracus2k said:
Never seen a Diet Coke advert?


ttaskmaster Said:
Diet Coke is a feminine product, now?

Its a product that is heavily marketed towards women as can be ascertained from looking at how its advertised. Are you really going to argue this?

Caracus2k said:
Women are generally less attracted to visual cues so it's hardly surprising that we see less advertising or promotion using the male body


ttaskmaster Said:
Despite the very famous Diet Coke adverts you just cited... :D


What point do you actually think you are making here???? As I said we see less advertising based on the female form I didn't say we see no advertising directed at women using male attractiveness. The Diet coke add is memorable because its an atypical advert that used half clothed men to advertise a product primarily at women.

Caracus2k said:
You may have missed it but this thread wasn't about naked women draped over things but was instead about relatively conservatively dressed attractive ladies accompanying darts players in stage.. So there's your 'context'


ttaskmaster Said:
And again, they're all just guff that gets in the way of seeing the product.
TBH, while I've seen most of these sports and even met a couple of Kawasaki Paddock Girls when a friend of mine was doing their bodypaint, I don't recall ever seeing them at work and wasn't even aware we had Walk-On Girls in darts. I must be immune to their charms...
But since you're on it, the thread is actually about PC Correctness and TV censorship, since you may have missed the thread title and OP... :p

Yes we get it you are a moral exemplar who is immune to the widely observed effects seen in the rest of the human race.... you would never evenly be slightly affected by associating the sight of a person your are personally attracted to with a product...its just us lesser people who haven't yet reached your level of moral and mental perfection.....

Or alternatively you are either a deluded or deceitful person who ever cant or wont accept that the evidence is clear that humans area affected by the sex and attractiveness of a person promoting or advertising a produduct



Caracus2k said:
I never said people were 'slaves' to their impulses to the point that they would buy something solely or even mainly because it was promoted or advertised using an attractive member of whatever sex they were attracted to....


ttaskmaster Said:
You don't have to... not that I was addressing you specifically, as you'll no doubt have ascertained from properly reading my comment that I was referring to "anyone who believes" - But the mere presence of them in completely pointless advertising roles and contexts already says it loud enough.
It's as unashamedly cheap and tactless as telling you to buy a razor just because it's the same colour as R2D2 or Kylo Ren's Lightsaber.
My comment still stands.

You may think its cheap but the tactic works otherwise companies would not pay millions for the rights to plaster star wars logos over their products. Again we get it ........you believe your above all these effects.........but regardless of that they do work

Caracus2k said:
But the evidence is clear people are affected by things like the attractiveness and sex of a person selling something to them...


ttaskmaster Said:
What sells me on something is the text next to the photo on the website. People don't sell me things and even if they did, their gender and appearance are completely immaterial - If I want something I will buy it. If I don't I won't and no amount of being pretty will change that.

Caracus2k said:
You suggested you were immune to such an effects..... I say that the evidence shows that you are either deluded or deceitful on this point....


ttaskmaster Said:
Evidence?
From what, studies? Experiments? Pfft - None of them studied or experimented on or factored in folk like me...
'The Evidence' claims a lot of things about a lot of people, but I bet I can find some with such generalisations that don't apply to you, either...

Wow you really do think you are special don't you! What is this group of 'people like you' that are immune to the effects of advertising.... I provided evidence of the phenomena with the real estate sales example where attractive women secured the highest values for property sales.


Caracus2k said:
Just that they do have some effect on you even if you are not always totally conscious at the time of these effects


ttaskmaster Said:
The psychological possibility exists that they might, but the reality is that they don't.
Yes again we get it you are special and not effected by these crude associations...... the countless millions spent by advertisers and research done showing these effects is all for nothing..........
 
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