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Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II
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Wow, this new poll is quite different to the old one. If OcUK has had such a swing to Labour then maybe the rest of the country will too.
I remember watching that live at uni. Not great, but it is ~9 years old...
The bit between "Who" and "hope."
She was the least harmed senior person from Brexit. She did play a blinder. Basically came out last saying she was supporting Remain and then disappeared and never got involved with either side during the campaign which meant she was in a strong positions whichever side one or lost.
The Tories couldn't have a strong remainer as their new leader as the rabid kippers would never have stood for it and equally, since the majority of Tory MPs were remainers they were never going to vote in a rabid kipper.
So you got middle of the road, the least hated candidate winning. Thats a far cry from her being the best candidate for PM.
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And where is the additional funding to come from? All these proposals currently come from the 5% above 80k or the corporation tax increases.
The conservative proposal at least directs the cost to the appropriate source even if the lifetime cap is not currently explicit and subject to consultation.
An increase in funding from an indefinite source is not an increase IMO.
Already we have:
Removal of tuition fees
Additional funding for healthcare
Additional funding for 2-4 year olds
Additional funding for social care.
Increases in state benefits
Removal of public sector pay caps and inflation increases for all staff
Increased access for football at grass roots level FFS.
Out of an increase in taxation above. The corporate tax increase will likely increase prices and lead to inflation. If not a general reduction in activity in the UK.
In true dictatorial style, we praise the single candidate win since the vote for them was overwhelming!
They didn't have a final vote, Leadsom withdrew from the race and May was appointed without a vote
To be fair Leadsom would have been much much worse. Shudders.
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I've heard this line a lot, what is it specifically you find concernig? Specifics hear not a vague sense of concern.
Not being argumentative as I've heard this a lot and the few times I've drilled into it (using my work day productively with other staff
) most people cannot define what it is. It's just a peddled line with no real foundations, though of course this my not be the case with yourself.I just find the personal attacks boring and equally as easy to poke holes in the Cons line up if you are so inclined.
Yup and I believe they are paying the price now.
She could have been shown up during the selection process and hustings as a poor speaker, falling apart under pressure and giving rambling answers.
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I've heard this line a lot, what is it specifically you find concernig? Specifics hear not a vague sense of concern.
Not being argumentative as I've heard this a lot and the few times I've drilled into it (using my work day productively with other staff
I just find the personal attacks boring and equally as easy to poke holes in the Cons line up if you are so inclined.
Corbyn's past history and comments around terrorists, his stance on Trident, his comments about not retaliating if this country was ever attacked. Etc etc. I could drill down every specific example but I neither have the time, or the desire to have to justify my voting intention. You could find those specific examples yourself.
As for Abbott, no example needed. You can quite easily find plenty of reasons why I have zero confidence in her.
I dunno - I'm not sure the senior Tories were quite so chummy with the IRA and various Islamist groups.. nor have they declared themselves to be 'marxists' or called for MI5 to be disbanded
Not at all, but I am surprised to see a typically left leaning newspaper falling on that side of the fence, when they could easily have fallen the other without appearing massively biased. It reads like a report in a Tory owned paper.
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Is the conservative manifesto even costed?
This is what labour claim and the relevant costings.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...rs-manifesto-cost-pledges-money-guide-details
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So to summarise your two posts above: Corbyn allows the rest of his party to determine policy because he's a weak leader and also disregards the will of his party in favour of pushing his own agenda against their objections. Heisenburg himself couldn't reconcile the superpositions you create for yourself.
This article backs up what I said before about using the IRA and Northern Ireland as a cheap political smear.
Northern Ireland is utterly forgotten in political debate apart from when it can be used to score points. No-one seems to care about the real issues affecting Northern Ireland: Brexit's impact on the border, the lack of a devolved government, the lack of abortion rights and so on.
Northern Ireland is utterly forgotten in political debate apart from when it can be used to score points. No-one seems to care about the real issues affecting Northern Ireland: Brexit's impact on the border, the lack of a devolved government, the lack of abortion rights and so on.
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The Tory plan is actually quite a traditional Labour / Socialist policy in that it attempts to stop the concentration of wealth - for that reason I'm actually all for it.
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The usual ill informed view. The Scottish use their money differently that's all. Primary health measures rather than waiting for people to truck up to the A and E. The English also got some cancer drugs quicker than the Scots and even further back were still getting analogue hearing aids when in England they were getting digital. Your idea that Scotland is not facing austerity measures is a joke. Scotland gets a load of cash to spend as they see fit, it has however been reduced a few times.
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Corbyn is no good anymore because the days when Venezuela and Cuba might have invested in the UK are gone? WHAT??
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