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I predicted no overall majority. I think it's quite likely.
If that is the case, Labour have a much better chance of getting in as basically no other party will go into a coalition with the Tories, IMO.
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I predicted no overall majority. I think it's quite likely.
If that is the case, Labour have a much better chance of getting in as basically no other party will go into a coalition with the Tories, IMO.
That's the dirty side of the EU agenda, cheap-labour for big businesses. Morally objectionable, but who cares we're making too much money to care. And that money in turn feeds back into the EU's coffers.
Little wonder all those with a vested interest in seeing cheap labour stay in Britain voted to remain, like the business owner employing them, the landlord taking their rent, the accountant handling the money, the investment banker adding it to his portfolio. All one big con.
Did burn down pretty fast though.Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Crazy wanting Corbyn in absolutely moronic.
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Historically its been a mixed bag for me but conservative last time. Under May they're are too insane and too far right for me now so even though I'm no corbyn fan and dont think he will make a good leader, I'll either vote labour because our current mp Vernon Coaker is actually ok or Lib Dems because I quite like them in general.
In the above poll I've voted labour.
In the above poll I've voted labour.
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Not everybody here is a millionaire or a turkey voting for Christmas.
How is voting Labour any different?
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Neither am I, but everybody falling for his free money tree. Oh there's a problem, what on earth will you do "I'll throw £200 billion at it".
Weak weak leader who would role over at anything. Trusting him with negotiations, he would give into anything the EU would want.
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Weak leader vs narcissistic tyrannical leader, choices choices.
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Weak leader?
He's basically told the "elite" and establishment to do one and stands by his principles, even if people don't like them.
When most of the party turned because they didn't get their own way, he told them to GTFO.
I wouldn't say that was weakness.
He's basically told the "elite" and establishment to do one and stands by his principles, even if people don't like them.
When most of the party turned because they didn't get their own way, he told them to GTFO.
I wouldn't say that was weakness.
Problem is Corbyn can promise the earth with nothing to lose and people are swallowing it hook, line and sinker :s I'm amazed people haven't learnt from the last 30 or so years :|
He hasn't actually had to stand upto the first bit yet - easy to say - implementation speaks louder.
He only turned on the party when in a position to get someone else to do the dirty work for him - before that he was all just words for quite awhile.
EDIT: I wouldn't say he was weak, but he almost always goes for the soft option out of misguided principle and prefers if other's get their hands dirty for him other than when it suits him for appearance's sake - while it would be unfair to portray him as a champagne socialist he is much more leaning that way than people generally perceive.
The real problem with Corbyn is that the ultimate end goal with him is preserving the institution of things often misinterpreted as looking after people's interests - its a subtle but quite dangerous difference as ultimately when it comes to it he'd sacrifice to the last man to preserve the institution.
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That might be because the majority of his supporters haven't experienced the last 30 years as adults.
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^ definitely an issue, for sure.
May's continual failure to present Brexit as anything other than a colossal undertaking to the extent that the party seem happy with having produced 100 pages of material on the topic in 10 months is a pretty glaring example of dishonesty, if you're looking for balance here. Note that she never committed to walking away from negotiations, only that a bad deal is worse than no deal - except I don't believe she has explained what a bad deal exactly is.
Telling people it's simple and just needs a strong negotiator is reckless.
Telling people it's simple and just needs a strong negotiator is reckless.
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Can you not get past that she has to keep cards close her chest though?
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