How do you respond to the accusation you didn't change your vote and have simply been labour all along?
Poll: Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Mk II
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How do you respond to the accusation you didn't change your vote and have simply been labour all along?
Well yes, there is a MASSIVE difference......one is real and the other the figment of your imagination
lolscorza
You should be praying for a Labour win, that way you can blame them for the wrecking of the economy your Brexit vote is already going to do to us
Soldato
Simply put: May's authoritarianism and puritanism; and Corbyn's approach to foreign policy.
Economically, I'm more with the Conservatives but some things matter more than the economy. Heresy, I know!
You get his sort calling into LBC all day long. Trying to get people to join the herd.
Soldato
Past Cons voter back in 2015 and I have grown to really dislike what they are bringing to the table. I want to vote LD this time but I feel it's a waste to do so in my current constituency so despite not being entirely happy about what they are proposing, Labour seem to be the only realistic option here against what was a Tory majority in 2015 - the recent locals elections were also Labour (but only by a small majority to Cons) so I suppose that's a good indicator. Is there any point in sticking to what I actually want to vote and go LD or should I stay with the tactical option?
^^ it depends. I mean Labour this time round are DRASTICALLY different to 2105, way further to the left. The Cons are even using a Miliband policy of capping energy prices. I'd argue they have gone a little bit right and a little bit left in an attempt to get further support from a wider number of the electorate, but this has backfired with the Social Care pledge (this is a socialist policy, the sort Labour WOULD NOT reverse, they secretly like it).
I still think the Lib Dems have the best policies, despite my objection to them on Europe.
I still think the Lib Dems have the best policies, despite my objection to them on Europe.
Permabanned
Have not bothered to check all this information but could well be fake news(the land tax and the associates figures).
"The right-wing press are LYING to you about Labour’s ‘Land Value Tax’. Here’s the truth."
http://evolvepolitics.com/right-wing-press-lying-labours-land-value-tax-heres-truth/
Associate
All it takes is an old, privileged, white male to unlock the talent of ethnic minorities. Who knew?
Nothing like a bit of divide-and-conquer. No mention of the fact that the lowest educational attainment is among working class white boys.
Looks like the politics of victimisation and division coming back to the fore.
Nothing like a bit of divide-and-conquer. No mention of the fact that the lowest educational attainment is among working class white boys.
Looks like the politics of victimisation and division coming back to the fore.
Don
I like this land value tax. For me, it would almost certainly result in a tax rise as my house is worth about £350k even though it's a modest 2-bed semi. However, if it results in the less well off having to pay less due to them renting then I'm all for it.
I could have voted for Dave.
Same here. Have voted Conservative for almost 30 years. Not this time.
I thought these were fake for a second, just checked his twitter to see it's real hahahah
Associate
If Labour seem like the realistic opposition in your constituency and you don't like Conservative policy, then I'd say the tactical option is your best bet. I don't think that we'll see a Labour win outright, and a hung parliament is still an outside bet, but a Conservative victory with a functional opposition might make the future bearable.
The cynic in me wonders if May has deliberately sabotaged her own campaign. She keeps banging on about how the only way we'll get a good Brexit deal is with a large Con majority, and I suspect she knows that whatever deal we actually get won't be viewed as "good" by the public (even if it's the best we could hope for) so *not* having that large majority allows her to deflect the blame. If it weren't for some of their outlandish and harmful policies, I'd be all for giving them a go with a huge majority. There'd be nowhere to hide then.
[Who am I kidding? They'll always find someone to blame. Even if they had a large majority and got the best bad deal possible, they'd presumably blame it on the EU negotiators for being stubborn or punitive.]
hahahaha this poll gives me hope. If this forum which is mainly conservative can sway to labour.
Also search twitter for this
https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheresaMayGIFs?src=hash
Also search twitter for this
https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheresaMayGIFs?src=hash
Soldato
A decent opposition would be a positive if nothing else, i suppose! I don't like the Cons policy in general - all their major points and focus is completely opposed to my own views. Having said that, quite a bit of Labour's policy falls in the same category - it's just I consider them to be the lesser of two evils despite Labour's policies being more likely to negatively impact me financially.
What circumstances would potentially see a form of coalition government?
Politics at the moment - particularly the tories brand of it - seems to be a game of 'who can we blame for our **** ups this time' rather than taking responsibility.
I suspect it would be a tax drop or even neutral. Unless you have 5 acres of landscaped gardens or something I cant see your plot been worth more than £50k £60k so your land tax instead of your council tax would be £1500 to £1800.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ut-any-key-orgs-names-and-terms-a7762546.html
So apparently this is legal but it sure isn't right!
So apparently this is legal but it sure isn't right!
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