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[ui]ICEMAN;18538089 said:
Fett, I don't know if it's just the UK but I can tell you the running costs of the GTR are NOT cheaper or even on par with a 911, they're outrageous. 6 month or 6000 mile intervals at $500 a pop, 18k miles or 18 months almost 3 grand to flush the transmission, $8k for bog standard Brembo brakes that I could buy elsewhere for 1/2 that price.

I want to like the GTR, I'm even tempted by one as a daily but come on, this is a Nissan not a Ferrari. For reference my F430 cost less to run than a GTR, don't you think that's insane?
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You do know you don't have to get the servicing done by a main dealer yeah? if it really is 3k to have the transmission flushed id just do it myself lol.
 
Yes you do else it's warranty void.

Fett on this very page you stated that the GTR is no more expensive than any Porsche. Yes it's quick but there are much faster cars out there that don't require the gearbox to be flushed every 18 months at some extortionate price. A real testament to how poorly built it must be in all honesty. Like I said, I love the car but that's a tough pill to swallow especially when they cost what a used 911 turbo does over here.
 
[ui]ICEMAN;18538199 said:
Yes you do else it's warranty void.

Fett on this very page you stated that the GTR is no more expensive than any Porsche. Yes it's quick but there are much faster cars out there that don't require the gearbox to be flushed every 18 months at some extortionate price. A real testament to how poorly built it must be in all honesty. Like I said, I love the car but that's a tough pill to swallow especially when they cost what a used 911 turbo does over here.
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Please quote where I said the GT-R is no more expensive to run than a 911.

What are the "much faster cars" out there that don't require high maintenance?

And no, you do not void the warranty if the dealer does not service the car. See Litchfields for reference.
 
Fett said:
And there it is. A GT-R thread just wouldn’t be right without it. PLAYSTATION!@11

Seriously, without being offensive, that is a daft statement.
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Unfortunatley it's a fact. The GT-R comes with so many gimmicks it may aswell have it's own computer game. It's not just the R35, the R34 had it also. The fact it has these silly unnecessary things takes the edge off of it a little.

hurfdurf said:
How long did you drive one to come to this conclusion?
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Don't need to. I've sat in over 100 supercars so I know what i'm talking about :p
 
Fett said:
No, it didn’t. Like a lot of misinformation about the GT-R, it quickly becomes gospel. His bill was substantially reduced and he got (seriously) a free jacket amongst other things for the mistake. Nissan actually had a release on this specific issue and thread:
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I stand corrected :)
 
Fett said:
So if you conider £50k to be a decent outlay, surely you would want every pennies worth? To dismiss the GT-R against a Porsche would be a mistake, unless it is of paramount importance you have the right badge.

Regarding the GT-R's ability in real world useage, it's on a par with any top flight Porsche and it's capabilities and performance are reflected on the road just as well as they are on the track. So forget the track.

I may have misinterpreted this though...perhaps you are saying a C4 is more than enough for you so what the GT-R offers over and beyond it, on the road, are of little relevance to you?
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From a value for money point of view, yes the Nissan is a bargain, however I'd like to think some of that money is going towards making a statement, the Porsche is more low key blends in with the crowd, the GTR attracts the wrong sort of attention from the wrong age group.

Real world wise something like a C4 would offer everything i would ever need from a performance standpoint, the GTR in my eyes is overkill.

Just to clear something up, i'm not doubting the Nissans ability, never have never will, from a technical and outright pace point of view i'd rate it above Porsche, at the end of the day you have the Nissan crew then the Porsche camp, both have seeming irrational loyalties to one brand.
 
peterattheboro said:
Unfortunatley it's a fact. The GT-R comes with so many gimmicks it may aswell have it's own computer game. It's not just the R35, the R34 had it also. The fact it has these silly unnecessary things takes the edge off of it a little.
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No, it's an opinion, one that most people latch on to quickly because there has to be something wrong with it, right?

Chris Harris sums up the character of the GT-R the best...I can't remember the words but it was well put.

There is a huge amount of trickery going on under the 997.2 Turbo as well, I would never pass it off as a gizmo-laden souless bit of kit...unless of course I went with the uninformed opinion of the masses or took technical stats to heart.
 
Fett said:
Please quote where I said the GT-R is no more expensive to run than a 911.

What are the "much faster cars" out there that don't require high maintenance?

And no, you do not void the warranty if the dealer does not service the car. See Litchfields for reference.
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Ok I misread something you put, was only posting on my phone, apologies.

However, my point still stands, the running costs are extortionate, particularly over here. It costs almost twice what my 911 costs to run a year and doesn't offer anything more performance wise than a 911 Turbo which I can buy for the same money (albeit two years old now).

There is no justification for the 6k mile/6 month service intervals, it shows NO confidence in their product and the 18k gearbox flush is a joke. Porsche PDK boxes don't need maintenance until 120k miles yet they put the same or even more power down than the GTR.

You have to laugh at the brake costs, $8k!!!!! Seriously?! They're Brembo brakes, the same ones I can buy FROM Brembo for half that price, yet Nissan want $8k. You have to see the idiocy in this when they're marketing against cars that are just as fast (911 TT) yet don't cost anywhere near this to run.

In the USA if you service outside of your dealer, kiss your warranty goodbye.

This is knowledge I've gained based on wanting to buy one myself and that of my friends who own several of them, it's not hearsay and I do not just repeat the useless information that people spout on the internet.
 
[TW]Fox;18538181 said:
There you go guys, DIY servicing on a GT-R :D
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My friend has a late 90's GT-R and he does all his own servicing, as long as your competent I don't really see why the car being new as opposed to 13 years old makes it any more/less daunting :S



[ui]ICEMAN;18538199 said:
Yes you do else it's warranty void.
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Nope, you can take a car for a service at any garage you like without voiding the manufacturers warranty, laws were brought in to stop manufacturers making these silly demands some time ago. The only benefit to taking it to the manufacturer is that the service history will be worth more when you sell the car.
 
Fett said:
No, it's an opinion, one that most people latch on to quickly because there has to be something wrong with it, right?

Chris Harris sums up the character of the GT-R the best...I can't remember the words but it was well put.

There is a huge amount of trickery going on under the 997.2 Turbo as well, I would never pass it off as a gizmo-laden souless bit of kit...unless of course I went with the uninformed opinion of the masses or took technical stats to heart.
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I've not driven the GT-R but..

I feel it would be a distraction having all those dials blinking away. If Mr Playstation had his way I think there'd be a score system where you get so many points for hitting 1g in the corners :D

With the 997.2 Turbo, most of the trickery is hidden away so you can focus on driving the thing. Not that it would be hard with automatic this and assisted that. Very much like the GT-R I admit.
 
ubersonic said:
My friend has a late 90's GT-R and he does all his own servicing, as long as your competent I don't really see why the car being new as opposed to 13 years old makes it any more/less daunting :S





Nope, you can take a car for a service at any garage you like without voiding the manufacturers warranty, laws were brought in to stop manufacturers making these silly demands some time ago.
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Not over here you can't. I've said this three times now. It's Nissan's $500-600+ bills or no warranty.

You have to remember, you're not talking to someone who here who can't afford it, I could easily afford it, the point is while the GTR is technically brilliant, its running costs do not make it an attractive enough proposition for me given its competition that cost a lot less to run.
 
[ui]ICEMAN;18538342 said:
Not over here you can't. I've said this three times now. It's Nissan's $500-600+ bills or no warranty.
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Ahh didn't realise you were from the states, sucks for you man. the info I posted is correct for the UK though.


Firestar_3x said:
Well that's that then!
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Im serious, why does the car being new have any baring on the skill required by the mechanic, oh noes! the car is worth 70 thousands, it cannot possibly be worked on by a mere mortal we must take it to the gods at the dealership who will lavish us with the same quality of work for an extortionate fee
 
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