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Soldato
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What do these tell me about my line?

The predicted speeds using my phone number and postcode estimated around 66mb but obviously I am not getting that.

Thanks

Code:
# xdslcmd info --show
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max:    Upstream rate = 18414 Kbps, Downstream rate = 54104 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 18448 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53440 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.2             6.0
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        13.3            6.8
                        VDSL2 framing
                        Path 0
B:              239             239
M:              1               1
T:              64              64
R:              0               14
S:              0.1429          0.4139
L:              13434           4909
D:              1               1
I:              240             127
N:              240             254
                        Counters
                        Path 0
OHF:            257876          89574
OHFErr:         1               0
RS:             0               1435964
RSCorr:         0               1
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Path 0
HEC:            3               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    60714287                0
Data Cells:     1309            0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             1               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            140             140
AS:             594

                        Path 0
INP:            0.00            0.00
PER:            2.28            6.62
delay:          0.00            0.00
OR:             87.46           33.82

Bitswap:        111             12

Code:
# xdslcmd info --pbparams
xdslcmd: too many parameters
# xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max:    Upstream rate = 18429 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53880 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 18448 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53440 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:      18429 kbps         53880 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        6.7 dBm          13.3 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  4.8     24.1    36.1     N/A    12.6    29.8    45.7

Signal Attenuation(dB):  4.8     23.3    35.0     N/A    12.6    29.8    45.7

        SNR Margin(dB):  5.8     6.0     6.0      N/A    6.1     6.1     6.1

         TX Power(dBm): -3.8    -18.9    6.3      N/A    10.2    7.9     7.0

#

66mb estimate would put you at about 250 to 300 meter line, but your line is longer than that at about to 450 to 500 meters(rough estimate). Might be a poor D-side (some or all ALU) or heavy crosstalk.
 
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My stats have changed a bit:

Code:
# xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 2
Max:    Upstream rate = 9586 Kbps, Downstream rate = 51724 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 9491 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39996 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:       9586 kbps         51724 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        5.7 dBm          12.7 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.6     37.2    55.9     N/A    17.7    47.4    68.6

Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.6     37.1    54.6     N/A    17.7    47.4     N/A

        SNR Margin(dB):  5.0     6.0     6.2      N/A    8.0     7.9      N/A

         TX Power(dBm): -3.6    -4.8     4.7      N/A    11.2    7.2      N/A

#

Code:
# xdslcmd info --show
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 2
Max:    Upstream rate = 9590 Kbps, Downstream rate = 51604 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 9491 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39996 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        7.9             6.1
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.7            5.7
                        VDSL2 framing
                        Path 0
B:              57              238
M:              1               1
T:              64              61
R:              16              16
S:              0.0461          0.8009
L:              12835           2547
D:              701             1
I:              74              255
N:              74              255
                        Counters
                        Path 0
OHF:            2853868         519467
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             547942281               1613094
RSCorr:         380412          0
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Path 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    487781967               0
Data Cells:     4152412         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             5461            12
SES:            67              0
UAS:            40              40
AS:             6344

                        Path 0
INP:            3.00            0.00
PER:            2.21            12.21
delay:          8.00            0.00
OR:             86.72           20.30

Bitswap:        1061            0

#

As has my ping, gone up around 10ms on average since 6am.

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DLM the wonderful thing (not) has put interleave on your line. I think it's the lowest depth and 3 INP symbols is low (so far)

Lucky for you - you had a decent ping to start with so around the 20ms mark.
 
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Just upgraded the firmware on the 612:

Code:
ATP>SH


BusyBox v1.9.1 (2010-10-15 17:59:06 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

# xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max:    Upstream rate = 9598 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53420 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 9495 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39998 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959) (2792,4083)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (880,1195) (1984,2771)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1959)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:       9598 kbps         53420 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:        5.6 dBm          12.6 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.6     37.2    56.0     N/A    17.7    47.4    73.7

Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.7     37.1    54.6     N/A    17.7    47.4     N/A

        SNR Margin(dB):  6.0     6.0     6.2      N/A    8.1     7.9      N/A

         TX Power(dBm): -3.6    -4.7     4.5      N/A    11.1    7.4      N/A

#

I hope that epic line of red is you updating the firmware :D
 
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Moved house (same estate/cab) bit closer to it :D

Code:
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max:    Upstream rate = 36440 Kbps, Downstream rate = 105088 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps

Discovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959)
Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959)
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream        Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:      36440 kbps        105088 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power:    -   6.3 dBm          13.0 dBm
============================================================================
  VDSL Band Status        U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  2.3     9.3     12.5     N/A    5.4     11.3    17.4

Signal Attenuation(dB):  2.3     8.3     11.2     N/A    5.4     11.3    17.4

        SNR Margin(dB):  23.4    23.4    23.3     N/A    12.9    12.9    12.9

         TX Power(dBm): -20.0   -33.9   -6.5      N/A    9.4     7.7     7.2

Code:
# xdslcmd info --show
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Max:    Upstream rate = 36532 Kbps, Downstream rate = 105088 Kbps
Path:   0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        12.9            23.4
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        13.0           -6.3
                        VDSL2 framing
                        Path 0
B:              239             237
M:              1               1
T:              23              45
R:              0               16
S:              0.0955          0.3782
L:              20107           5373
D:              1               1
I:              240             127
N:              240             254
                        Counters
                        Path 0
OHF:            6013466         2337868
OHFErr:         2               3
RS:             0               2099898
RSCorr:         0               157
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Path 0
HEC:            14              0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    1529136646              0
Data Cells:     1095247         0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             2               3
SES:            0               0
UAS:            18              18
AS:             9946

                        Path 0
INP:            0.00            0.00
PER:            1.64            4.25
delay:          0.00            0.00
OR:             116.56          60.17

Bitswap:        4               33
 
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Hi Cjd, interesting project. Have you thought about implementing vectoring?

Current Dslams don't support vectoring out of the box (unsure of this Dslam chipset) but the controller cards will need an update - hardware or at the very least a firmware update.

what brand of modem have you ordered?
 
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Vectoring should restore the lost speed/attainable rate lost to crosstalk.

people with short/quality D-sides should see the max VDSL2 17a can provide (if BT offer higher speeds)
 
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Looking at your stats your punching very well given your attenuation

Thing is without seeing stats from when your cab was empty, we have no idea what vectoring will bring.
 
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If you wouldn't mind looking what chipset they are, his ADSL has a crap load of FEC erros and error seconds for a 2hr uptime, there is an issue with his line at some point.
 
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I believe the line back to my exchange follows the main roads, which comes to around 0.9 miles or 1.44Km.

Tried the test port on the master socket and that only resulted in a better ping. We do connect the router to the master socket via an extension which is plugged into another extension (God knows who wired this).

As for electrical noise our line does enter a few foot from the fuse box, i don't know if that would make a difference. There is also a large transformer looking thing down by the cabinet.

As for resyncs, you can see it had been disconnected 2 hours before i took the router stats. It had previously stayed connected for around 8 days before.

Poor quality cables can result is poor stats.


Are all these fec errors and error seconds bad? They might be produced from the extension cables, can't leave the router plugged in to the master as there are no power sockets near and it is also stupidly placed
 
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FTTC cabinet arrived week commencing 13th May, and by the end of the week the hole had all been tarmaced over etc.
I emailed OpenReach the weekend afterwards to ask when I can order and they replied "currently this is awaiting power and other works, and the estimated date for cabinet enablement is close August 2013 assuming there are no issues."

Just saw on Roadworks.org


It's getting sooner... but why on earth didn't they connect it to power when they had the footpath all dug up already? Why did they fill it in and tarmac over, only to have to go and dig it up again? :confused:.

It's the councils fault and we all know they like to waste money.
 
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I replaced the cable from the point the wire comes out the ground and is crimped into this cheap crappy white cable and gained about 500kps but it was only about a meters worth and it was alu.
 
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That backs up the figures that i got good to know it can be duplicated, So your line in your house is optimized its just BT's side that isn't :mad:, That's what i am trying to get the last thing is the cable outside that connects the house then thats it i can't do anymore tweaking wiring wise.

I'll post again when my line has stabilized after the alteration.

tbh my attainable rate is over 100mbit as I can see the cab out of the window :D but I wasn't keen on the last meter with Alu in it.

This estate is only 5 years old so it was a bit ***** of BT to install Alu into the house when the D-side is .5 copper. It may have been a contractor that did this though.
 
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