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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments
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13900K EARLY REVIEW + BENCHMARKS EXCLUSIVE
REAL CPU, NO NDA!! DO NOT BUY BEFORE WATCHING!!https://framechasers.org/ - Discord and...www.youtube.com
Not a great "pre" Review so the AMD boys and girls will love this, anyhow was Teamviewer running during the benchmarks????
Ouch lol
Paraphrase: When we average out all the benchmarks the 13900k is 1% faster in games than the 12900k
Soldato
Surely though if your not using the e cores that allows you more headroom to push the p cores further. I certainly wouldn't let that 1 review determine whether or not to proceed with your purchase without seeing the proper reviews on the 20th, you can always send it back if you need to with more information gathered.
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They aint going to sell out, why the **** are people pre-ordering before reviews.....
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Isn't it a bit crappy to the retailer buying something and then just sending it back once you see the reviews? It costs them time and money to sort out.
I wouldnt get one anyway if I had 12th gen already, yeah I was only going by that video so could be something wrong soon find out but you said affected results massively but how when the thing has 16 e cores ? and its on custom water loop and using DDR5 7600
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Isn't he running his 12900k at 5.5ghz all core? So...I mean....makes sense?
Isn't zen 4 a waste of silicon since at best it ties alderlake in gaming?
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Soldato
Don't get the problem with the Frame Chaser video
Surely its going to be slightly better than 12900K but not worth upgrading if you already have a 12900K was the take away.
Is anyone actually surprised that it doesn't perform much better than 12900K in games.
For most people it probably won't who are limited to stock and who just turn on XMP.
Thought the whole point was waiting to see if RPL has a better IMC so you can run 7000+, note that this time they have also already announced the KS in advance so surely all the best bins will be kept aside.
Surely its going to be slightly better than 12900K but not worth upgrading if you already have a 12900K was the take away.
Is anyone actually surprised that it doesn't perform much better than 12900K in games.
For most people it probably won't who are limited to stock and who just turn on XMP.
Thought the whole point was waiting to see if RPL has a better IMC so you can run 7000+, note that this time they have also already announced the KS in advance so surely all the best bins will be kept aside.
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You get 14 days to return and as long as it's not opened there shouldn't be an issue.
I did have 12th gen, the mobo went back cos it had a faulty ram slot(apex) and my KS wasn't the best sample. Weren't the e cores disabled for the gaming tests??
I wasnt expecting much gaming increase over 12th gen pretty sure wont be 1% only lol main difference will be multi workloads with the extra added e cores more interested seeing the gaming results of the 13600k
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Fan boys can’t help themselves.
The 13600K should definitely show some improvement over the 12600K for gaming with the extra L2 cache and higher frequency.
shame the price increased was looking really interesting if it retained 12600k price, currently the 12700k is priced around the same with 8p - 8e
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Not watched the full video, but appears he turned off 16 of the 24 cores of the CPU, so this may have affected the results a bit.
Looking forward to the official reviews
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He turned off the e-cores to let the p-cores clock as high as possible… which has been the general advice for those looking to maximise performance.Not watched the full video, but appears he turned off 16 of the 24 cores of the CPU, so this may have affected the results a bit.
Looking forward to the official reviews
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13900K EARLY REVIEW + BENCHMARKS EXCLUSIVE
REAL CPU, NO NDA!! DO NOT BUY BEFORE WATCHING!!https://framechasers.org/ - Discord and...
Not a great "pre" Review so the AMD boys and girls will love this
It will be slightly higher than 1% in real reviews because he ran both 12 and 13 gen overclocked, 13 gen is just a clocked up 12 gen, i don't know what else anyone was expecting? That has been Intel's MO for more than a decade, you would think people would have learned that by now.
You can get the same gaming results from 12 gen, absolutely no point in anyone on 12 gen to upgrade.
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Why do people think Intel always put their CPU's up for pre-order long before reviews go live?
They are counting on you to get sucked in by the hype they create to buy it before you know what it actually is.
They are counting on you to get sucked in by the hype they create to buy it before you know what it actually is.
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The main reason to do this for ADL was:
1. for those still on Windows 10 at the time and core scheduling issues
2. There was an architecture bug which limited the Ring frequency with ecores enabled
On RPL, enabling ecores won't impact your ring. Most are on W11 which is much improved on core scheduling. Since vcore is supplied to the Pcores + ecores and Pcores will always need more voltage than the ecores, you're not having to additional voltage just to have ecores enabled.
The best gaming core configurations for RPL in order:
- 8c24t (ecores on and HT off) or 8c8t (HT off and ecores off)
- 8c32t (HT on and ecores on)
- 8c16t (ecores off and HT on)
If there's some weird scenario where you're extremely thermally limited that the power draw from ecores is a problem when doing stress testing, then that's a scenario I suppose that's possible.
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I don't understand pre ordering software let alone hardware.
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