Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

[Wolverine2349]

the newer ones you will probably end up disabling more e cores lol

Yeah on newer Intel, but AMD. AMD has no e-waste cores. Even if they start to implement them, they will have performance chips without them and AMD is going to put e-cores only in mobile or lower tier products. Not Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 stuff.

 

[uscool]

Yeah on newer Intel, but AMD. AMD has no e-waste cores. Even if they start to implement them, they will have performance chips without them and AMD is going to put e-cores only in mobile or lower tier products. Not Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 stuff.

have to wait till 5 Jan 2022 – 7 Jan 2022 to find out more info about x3d , Ive decided with go with AMD if the x3d are really good and hopefully in that time b650e boards are better priced , 13th gen is the end for this platform and at least still have zen5 and zen5 3d option still later with b650e board

 

[humbug]

@Dave2150 You liked this table but you do realise it shows that on average teh 7950X consumes less power then the 13900K in games.

Average Gaming:

13900K: 171/186 watts
7950X: 118/123 watts

 

[Wolverine2349]

have to wait till 5 Jan 2022 – 7 Jan 2022 to find out more info about x3d , Ive decided with go with AMD if the x3d are really good and hopefully in that time b650e boards are better priced , 13th gen is the end for this platform and at least still have zen5 and zen5 3d option still later with b650e board

Well actually B650E boards are not bad priced unless you are looking at $150 or less but then you get mediocre or poor VRMs. And plus I do not need all the overloaded features of X670E. Just want a strong VRM and it appears the $300 B650E- ROG Strix E from Asus has that.

 

[uscool]

Well actually B650E boards are not bad priced unless you are looking at $150 or less but then you get mediocre or poor VRMs. And plus I do not need all the overloaded features of X670E. Just want a strong VRM and it appears the $300 B650E- ROG Strix E from Asus has that.

cant find it here and only place which I never used or heard of its at £454.21 ,I aint going over £300 and also dont want the cheap stripped ones either

 

[Bencher]

https://www.club386.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Wattage-Comparison-02C5Hk9NKZFrktfm-1200x567.png

 

[Dave2150]

@Nickolp1974 Guess I'm waiting.

Another picture!




@ScottiB Will you offer pre-orders on the Apex?

 

[smilingcrow]

Guru3D said it's down to which motherboard was used, as all different motherboards have different PL1/PL2 rates.

"It has to be stated that today you'll see very different reviews on performance throughout a lot of media. See, the motherboard manufacturers get to decide how the CPU is configured concerning PL1/PL2 states (the maximum allowed energy consumption during a set timeframe, and these values will differ everywhere. We also noticed that when you run a benchmark, often the score is never 100% the same."

As usual, the scores are all over the place due to different PL settings, different RAM used, different coolers etc.
While Zen 4 still seems the best bet overall from my perspective, I still think that RL does surprisingly well at lower power settings, considering that it's a stop gap product on the same node size as AL.
It's all so expensive though and I'm glad I have no need to upgrade.
An i5 for £380!

 

[uscool]

https://www.club386.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Wattage-Comparison-02C5Hk9NKZFrktfm-1200x567.png

whats the power usage for the stock results why isnt it showed ? and the rest results below the 13900k isnt as efficent

 

[Nutty667]

As usual, the scores are all over the place due to different PL settings, different RAM used, different coolers etc.
While Zen 4 still seems the best bet overall from my perspective, I still think that RL does surprisingly well at lower power settings, considering that it's a stop gap product on the same node size as AL.
It's all so expensive though and I'm glad I have no need to upgrade.
An i5 for £380!

I'll probably pick up a 7600X early next year. Will be a mamoth upgrade from my 6600K

 

[humbug]

whats the power usage for the stock results why isnt it showed ? and the rest results below the 13900k isnt as efficent

100 watts + more than the 7950X

 

[Bencher]

whats the power usage for the stock results why isnt it showed ? and the 13900k isnt as efficient with the others so you boast all that progress in short period yet its still behind

Here you go

https://www.club386.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Wattage-Comparison-15C5Hk9NKZFrktfm-1200x567.png

 

[Bencher]

100 watts + more than the 7950X

Absolutely buddy

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

@MartinPrince The Core i5 13600K thrashes a Ryzen 5 7600 and Ryzen 7 7700X in Photolab and Lightroom:

Test • Intel Core i9-13900K, Core i7-13700K, Core i5-13600K & Z790

Les Core i9-13900K & 13600K ainsi que leur chipset compagnon Z790 passent à la moulinette : comparaison avec les précédentes générations de processeurs sur des jeux, encodage, traitement d'image et vidéo, rendu 3D, compression, encryptage, compilation et divers benchmarks synthétiques et...

www.comptoir-hardware.com

13th Gen Intel Core Processors Content Creation Review

Following AMDs recent release of their Ryzen 7000 Series desktop processors, Intel is fighting back with their own launch of the Core 13th Gen processors (code named "Raptor Lake"). Unlike AMD's launch which moved to a new socket and added support for DDR5, the 13th Gen CPUs are a drop-in...

www.pugetsystems.com

Even in Adobe After Effects,the Core i5 13600K holds it's own against the Ryzen 7 7700X.

 

[uscool]

Absolutely buddy

why does this make me feel something needs hiding or make it as good as you can make it look, its misleading if you dont actually show everything together still AMD looks more efficent including both scores with power used

 

[uscool]

@MartinPrince The Core i5 13600K thrashes a Ryzen 5 7600 and Ryzen 7 7700X in Photolab and Lightroom:

Test • Intel Core i9-13900K, Core i7-13700K, Core i5-13600K & Z790

Les Core i9-13900K & 13600K ainsi que leur chipset compagnon Z790 passent à la moulinette : comparaison avec les précédentes générations de processeurs sur des jeux, encodage, traitement d'image et vidéo, rendu 3D, compression, encryptage, compilation et divers benchmarks synthétiques et...

www.comptoir-hardware.com

13th Gen Intel Core Processors Content Creation Review

Following AMDs recent release of their Ryzen 7000 Series desktop processors, Intel is fighting back with their own launch of the Core 13th Gen processors (code named "Raptor Lake"). Unlike AMD's launch which moved to a new socket and added support for DDR5, the 13th Gen CPUs are a drop-in...

www.pugetsystems.com

Even in Adobe After Effects,the Core i5 13600K holds it's own against the Ryzen 7 7700X.

kinda expected on MT with the extra E cores on the lower skus

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

kinda expected on MT with the extra E cores on the lower skus

Also the Core i5 13600K is competitive in gaming. Power consumption is higher but I assume even with a TDP/power cap,the Core i5 13600KF will comfortably beat a Ryzen 5 7600X in many non-gaming scenarios. Plus there is the fact it can be used in cheaper DDR4 motherboards too.

 

[Firestar_3x]

why does this make me feel something needs hiding or make it as good as you can make it look, its misleading if you dont actually show everything together still AMD looks more efficent including both scores and power

An all core load looks like this, which is a ridiculous amount of extra power.

 

[uscool]

An all core load looks like this:

yeah I know he is giving the best case he can find and its still not as efficient that pretty much says it all

 

[uscool]

Also the Core i5 13600K is competitive in gaming. Power consumption is higher but I assume even with a TDP/power cap,the Core i5 13600KF will comfortably beat a Ryzen 5 7600X in many non-gaming scenarios. Plus there is the fact it can be used in cheaper DDR4 motherboards too.

fair enough good points personally wanna move to DDR5 for my next upgrade so waiting on the x3d primary use gaming