Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

[Nickolp1974]

looks like my delid tool will come in handy. chap running prime at 5.3, stock 95c delid and LM applied 81c, direct die with LM 72c. Big gains to be had

 

[humbug]

That kind of falls down though when the CPUs and motherboards cost more, a B660 + 13600KF reuse your DDR4

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B660M-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36L-MS) = £159.95
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600KF (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6B8-IN) = £355.99

Total: £526.44 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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B650 7600X + DDR5 6000

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B650M Mortar WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-377-MS) = £269.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DG-AM) = £319.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) (SKU: MY-29T-KS) = £248.99

Total: £849.47 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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You're already saved £325 so thats your new intel motherboard in a few years while selling the DDR4 + B660 when you come to upgrade in a few years will also cover some new DDR5 which has likely gotten much cheaper and faster by then.

What makes you think i would spend £270 on a motherboard?

I got one of these. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...2-amd-am4-b550-atx-motherboard-mb-59q-gi.html

 

[humbug]

I just realised that motherboard now costs more than it did when i bought it 2 years ago.......

 

[uscool]

That kind of falls down though when the CPUs and motherboards cost more, a B660 + 13600KF reuse your DDR4

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B660M-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36L-MS) = £159.95
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600KF (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6B8-IN) = £355.99

Total: £526.44 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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B650 7600X + DDR5 6000

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B650M Mortar WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-377-MS) = £269.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DG-AM) = £319.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) (SKU: MY-29T-KS) = £248.99

Total: £849.47 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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You're already saved £325 so thats your new intel motherboard in a few years while selling the DDR4 + B660 when you come to upgrade in a few years will also cover some new DDR5 which has likely gotten much cheaper and faster by then.

Yes good option but unlocked CPU on locked board seems a waste would give me OCD that I couldn't tune it

Might as well go with cheaper locked CPU guess they will release none k 13600

 

[humbug]

OMG!!!! its AM5 equivalent is £300.

WTF?

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[Bencher]

OMG!!!! its AM5 equivalent is £300.

WTF?

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99% it's the manafacturers fault. The same crap happened to z790, take a look at the prices. Im skipping everything right now - until prices are "sane" again.

 

[humbug]

99% it's the manafacturers fault. The same crap happened to z790, take a look at the prices. Im skipping everything right now - until prices are "sane" again.

They have lost the plot.... i know costs have up but #### off with that crap.

 

[Joxeon]

OMG!!!! its AM5 equivalent is £300.

WTF?

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Yeah I said AM5 MB now cost double so the board makers are now stealing any savings you make by not needing to upgrade again.

 

[Vince]

Those that have to pay for it presumably

Yea that power bill keeps creeping up. You would be a fool if you didnt care one bit unless your power is free

 

[Bencher]

Hwunboxed posted a tweet, his MSI motherboard was wonky with the volts - and his power graph scaling chart is completely wrong. I assume - he realized after I told him repeatedly in the site comments.

As I was saying... whoever is posting the 13900k pulling 500 watts, has just done something wrong. But dont fret amd fans, dont let reality cloud your feeling, keep on poop posting with fake and faulty graphs

 

[chroniclard]

It's still using a ton of power either way?

 

[humbug]

Yeah I said AM5 MB now cost double so the board makers are now stealing any savings you make by not needing to upgrade again.

I'm quite happy to sit this madness out, i like what i have.

 

[Bencher]

It's still using a ton of power either way?

A ton of power, as in, exactly as much as any other high end cpu pretty much? The 7950x peaks at 230w, the 12900k at 240 and the 13900k at 250. Big whoop. The above numbers are with power limits enforced. I have to assume - reviewers choose the watercooling option in the bios which completely removes power limits, which is just stupid but whateva

 

[chroniclard]

So yes then. All the new top end is crazy power hungry.

 

[humbug]

Why is Steve Burke saying its 300 watts?

 

[Bencher]

So yes then. All the new top end is crazy power hungry.

If you want to run heavy mt workloads out of the box - then yes - the 5950x is your only sane option. If you don't mind getting into the bios, they are all good, RPL and Zen 4 are extremely efficient if you limit them to some sane wattages. Should run that way out of the box, but we have to win those benchmarks

 

[Bencher]

Why is Steve Burke saying its 300 watts?

Because he is measuring the EPS cables. Which you could argue is the best way to get an accurate reading of how much your CPU is consuming, but it's entirely dependant on the motherboard VRMs. So for you - as a home user - if you have the same motherboard configured the same way as Steve Burke - the EPS reading is the most accurate you can get. But for comparing between CPUs, not so much.

 

[Joxeon]

I'm quite happy to sit this madness out, i like what i have.

Yeah I plan to stick with my 5800X for at least another year by which time zen 3D and meteor lake should be out and hopefully all this nonsense pricing in the PC space has settled down.

 

[8 Pack]

Those that have to pay for it presumably

When I had to pay for it I had every single platform Z and X including at least 4 flagship gpus to bench four way.... I didn't have one cpu per platform either I had several. So my attitude exactly the same then.... In tech you can always wait for better... But if gaming or overclocking is your hobby may as well enhance the fun now...

 

[8 Pack]

That kind of falls down though when the CPUs and motherboards cost more, a B660 + 13600KF reuse your DDR4

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI Pro B660M-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel B660 DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36L-MS) = £159.95
• 1 x Intel Core i5-13600KF (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-6B8-IN) = £355.99

Total: £526.44 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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B650 7600X + DDR5 6000

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI MAG B650M Mortar WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-377-MS) = £269.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DG-AM) = £319.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) (SKU: MY-29T-KS) = £248.99

Total: £849.47 (includes delivery: £10.50)​

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You're already saved £325 so thats your new intel motherboard in a few years while selling the DDR4 + B660 when you come to upgrade in a few years will also cover some new DDR5 which has likely gotten much cheaper and faster by then.

I tried those fury beast expo actually very good kit for the money... Plus no rgb... Bonus!!!