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The more you buy, the more you save!!Takes note. Buys another Nvidia GPU
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Reality check, are AMD just as bad as Nvidia.
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Meh... nothing wrong with a bit of fun.
The is 7900XT 34% faster than the 6800XT at 15% more expensive with its new $750 price, that's still not good, but also much better than almost all of Nvidia's stuff.
The one thing with that is the 7800XT is very unlikely to be more expensive that the 6800XT was at $650, Actually given the 4070 is $600 its likely to be $550 at most and a 60 CU 7800 between $450 and $500, that would make the 4060Ti 16GB at $500 look absolutely ridiculous given the 7800 is likely to be very much faster.....
Again the 4060 series is just stupid, IMO that was Nvidia's biggest mistake being that greedy with such a crap card.
problem is the new $750 is now £799.99 at OcUK. The Sapphire reference model is £829.99!
Without going in to details that might get me reprimanded that seems to be a UK problem.
Yep, prices of several models have gone up not down. Way to go UK.
Caporegime
Prime Day is a week or so away. Might be that so companies can announce sale prices.
Having worked in retail it was very common practice to use the original price for expensive kit as the "reduced from" price. We had a bunch of older PCs that were £999 when we first got them and over the space of a year as the spec became dated, they were eventually marked down to about £630 and were selling quite well.
The day of a January sale I was instructed to remove the current £630 price tags and replace them with "Was £999, now £650". The price had actually gone up from the previous weeks price.
If you look around the web the 7900 XT has slowly increased from around £740 up to over £800 and even over MSRP in some cases. So when you see the "sale" price being £750, don't be fooled.
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Pricerunner is great for checking "sale" prices to be fair.
Yep, and it shows some of the typical trends of price increases just before a "sale".
The 7900 XT price has risen £90 over the past few weeks in the rain forest site. Just in time for their sales.
Caporegime
Black Friday? Just check HUKD - sometimes discount codes appear which can knock off some extra money.
Make no sense selling cheaper as if the competition keep raising prices like Nvidia kept doing to give the extra shiny tax well then the market is what it is.
That alongside wafer costs, design cost, production cost, transport cost etc...
anyhow really happy with the 6700xt running 4k and playing games
On the one hand i think this is the perfect opportunity for AMD to grab marketshare, on the other i'm thinking pretty much no matter what AMD do it wont make the blindest bit of difference because AMD don't have DLSS.
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Wait until the vRAM performance hits on that 3080
) And there's also DLSS3 where applicable... TBH, leaving the price difference aside, I don't really know how I'd compare those 2 with those 2 aspects in mind (plus that SER thing).I think a lot of people would buy for pure raster performance without DLSS if they felt they were being compensated by a lot price difference between the AMD card and Nvidia. All that lost extra for only a 10% price difference still favours Nvidia really. The only thing they have to counter offer with is more vRAM.
The 7900XTX is 5% faster in raster vs the 4080 and the 4080 is 26% more expensive brand for brand.
In raster that's a 30% price to performance difference.
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People like HUB lump the 7900XTX in exactly the same place as the 4080, despite it being slightly faster in raster and very much cheaper, in fact when you listen to to the way they talk about this its as if they blame AMD for Nvidia's high prices because AMD are in their words not doing enough to make Nvidia cheaper, this with a 30% price to performance difference.
This is because they are completely bought in to DLSS, they have said themselves DLSS commands a premium, and clearly that premium to them is more than 30%, they are making an impossible ask of AMD, and they know it, that's the point, so they can always say its AMD fault.
I don't know what their wired game is, have you seen their last few videos? One had nothing to do with GPU's and yet he was waving a 4080 around, just randomly, weirdly waving it around, another one, the last one i think he was waving a 4090 around, again just weirdly dropping it in to the conversation over and over again, wierdly quibing "you should buy this, only joking, but really its an incredible GPU" in about 13 different ways.
All the while he claims to be a man of the people, whatever that means...
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So its near a 20% price to performance difference, that doesn't make the AMD card over priced by comparison does it?
What is the value of DLSS over AMD? If that's the question then there is your reason for an £1100 ##80 class card.
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Considering the advantage of DLSS 2+3, RT, lower power consumption (could save you the cost of a new PSU + the large gap in older / simpler games), for sure 4080 makes a lot of sense.
If the vRAM will end up being a problem on the 4080... well, will be funny since there were plenty of "go with 6800/xt or 6900xt/6950xt since it has 16GB vRAM" in the read team
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Considering the advantage of DLSS 2+3, RT, lower power consumption (could save you the cost of a new PSU + the large gap in older / simpler games), for sure 4080 makes a lot of sense.
If the vRAM will end up being a problem on the 4080... well, will be funny since there were plenty of "go with 6800/xt or 6900xt/6950xt since it has 16GB vRAM" in the read team
Agreed. While lower power consumption, DLSS, FG, RT aren't worth paying a massive premium for, for many it would justify a small increase in price over AMD as there is extra value there. Up to an extra £50 would be fine for me. Not over £100.
There real problem is still thst both cards are not work £1k or over...
Considering the advantage of DLSS 2+3, RT, lower power consumption (could save you the cost of a new PSU + the large gap in older / simpler games), for sure 4080 makes a lot of sense.
If the vRAM will end up being a problem on the 4080... well, will be funny since there were plenty of "go with 6800/xt or 6900xt/6960xt since it has 16GB vRAM" in the read team
It needs to be said again.
The 7900XTX is 50% faster than the card its replaced (6900XT) for the same money, that's a +50% price to performance ratio increase, anyone point to me where we have had it better than that, anyone?
The 4080 is 48% faster than the card its replaced (3080) but also 86% more expensive, that's a -38% price to performance ratio. 38% value on DLSS, there it is.
That is because Nvidia know the value their fans put on DLSS, if that's you, Steve Walton, no not if, it is you, its no good winging AMD aren't doing enough, they will not and cannot do anything about the stupidity of the people who not only put this value on DLSS but then also make sure anything possibly done to make Nvidia understand that is. you are the problem.
Oh and AMD blocking DLSS...mmmm'GOOD! i hope AMD block it in every single subsequent AAA title between now and infinity, go cry about it Steve, loser.
Signed
-A decade long Nvidia user.
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