Road Cycling
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They might seem that, they're one of the few hubsets/wheelsets which have adaptors to change them between QR & thru axle, so they have a 135*12 adaptor I can use with my SCS Diverge. Without it my wheel upgrade options are limited. I want to retain thru-axle for strength and don't really want to move away from SCS as I like to run wide cassettes so need the chainline correction.
My SCS wheelset 'options' are the Specialized SCS Roval Control for £1400. The Roval CLX SCS are £1500 or more. The 'cheaper' options are a Hope SCS hub which is ~£185 alone, the cheapest I've seen a build is $490 for a rear wheel (stans notubes) on wheelbuilder. Although there's a wheelset £600 build from Strada, I've found very little real world info about it. All of these make the £500-600 Zipp quite appealing, especially with the name and lots of reviews on them... Hunt don't do any wheelsets with SCS, or with the Hope hub (The 4Seasons would be ideal otherwise)!
Basically going custom/self-build will require ~£250 on hubs before anything else... So rough maths of: (£30 rim, £30 spokes (24/28H), £30 rotor)*2 + £250 = £430 basic starting cost of parts...
Interestingly Campagnolo are heading into the disc brake wheelset market...
You're really asking two different questions - what to eat in the mornings (when you're not used to eating that early) and what to eat pre-riding 40+ miles so you don't have to eat while out on the bike. Different answers to each!
I always eat, usually before my club/social easy rides of 40/45 miles I'll eat 2 slices of toast with marg and a bowl of cereal - museli or crunchy nut cornflakes (with a coffee). I'll carry a 'lunchbox bar' or granola type thing for 'emergencies' and usually a gel or two (real 'get me home' emergencies!). But I'll usually complete these ~16mph avg rides without requiring it. Something 50+ miles and/or harder (climbing)/higher intensity I'll try and have porridge (with dried fruit in) before and usually be carrying 2 of the granola/flapjack/museli type bars with the intentions of eating them. I try to not take a gel unless I really need to, as they don't agree with me later in the day, having one in the middle of the ride (with real food either side) seems to work best for me (with less uneasy/unsettled belly afterwards).
The P-R2 wheelset which came on my Defy 1 (2015) were dire. I had them re-trued around 3-4 times and a number of spokes changed to no avail. A ~£130 wheelset was a huge upgrade over them. Although I'd recommend looking at more of an upgrade, the Zondas or Fulcrum Racing 3 or 5 all being great options (depending what lacing and branding you want!). My Defy is a totally different ride on the Shimano RS81's I currently have on it!
TLDR; got beaten by a hybrid.
Keep pushing!
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Specialized Cash Seperator it seems. The advantages of running it seem minor, and there appears to be a kit to adapt the bike to use a standard hub
http://specialized.desk.com/custome...nd-diverge-not-free-as-promised-by-mark-cote-
What did you get?Just bought my 1st road bike
TLDR; got beaten by a hybrid.
Keep pushing!
Paddy Wagon with drop bars, and I pushed 2.5 miles in the eight minutes it took him to go 1.9 miles and take his helmet off, so I can live with that
Banana?
I thought toast gets served with pints in Scotland!
? We are not animals mate. We wait until lunch time before downing pints at least! Come on!
We drink tea with our toast/crumpets in the early hours. With our pinkies raised highly. Just like you fine chaps.
It might seem like it, but it made sense at the time - to keep the road chain line they adapted hubs to the road width. It kept things within the specific 'limits' (guidelines set out by Shimano and SRAM) and also eliminated heel strike. The 142mm hubs used in CX/MTB pushed the chainline outside of this limit on the shorter road chainstays. They made it an 'open standard' so anyone could use it... And sure enough, nobody else took it up!
The only thru-axle bike I own and I'm using the wheels with is my Diverge. With it's 'already SCS' AXIS wheelset, I would then have to change the hub on them if I went non-SCS for my other wheels and wanted an easy swap... I have the non-SCS hanger already, so you might have a point - the times I'm changing my wheelset will actually be very few so I could just change the hanger at the same time.
Although the 4Seasons are a good wheelset, I don't need a 'do everything' wheelset (I'm happy with the Axis 4 for that)... Unless I wanted to move away from SCS then they'd be an ideal replacement for them.
So what I'm really looking for is a thru axle ~30mm or so wheelset (for a slight aero advantage), 24/28H to keep weight down (<1700g with rotors) and 21mm internal width so I can run 28mm tyres (minimum)! Aero Disc are good, but quite pricey.
I thought it was Porridge for breakfast washed down with Irn Bru and then Haggis for lunch?
Strada are doing an SCs-compatible hope/pacenti set. It's £600, but i'd take hope hubs over zipp ones every single time.
http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/hope-scs-road-hubs/
http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/hope-scs-road-hubs/
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I don't see how people can ride on little/no food. I can barely even make it downstairs most mornings if I ate dinner too long before going to bed 
Cardio (except rare morning cardio ) is out of the question!
Cardio (except rare morning cardio ) is out of the question!
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I've been experimenting with pre-ride food recently. My theory is, your glycogen stores should already be full (or reasonably so) from your previous meals so I'm not totally sure a high carb breakfast is necessary. I've started having a mix of eggs, ham, cheese and avocado and then fuelling my rides from 90 mins on with carb based food. I find this avoids a post breakfast crash and keeps you feeling full for more of the ride, and doesn't seem to impact performance. Whether there's any science behind this I don't know, but there's only so much porridge you can eat and it seems to work for me!
Ahaha. Well the dinner I had the Saturday evening with booyaka and co consisted of a toast starter alongside our pints then cakes to finish off!
Cheapest serviceable one i could find, Apollo Paradox from the halfordz. Emphasis on serviceable so I can buy slightly better parts down the line like lighter wheels/fork then prob a drivetrain. Its main purpose is for commuting tho. First upgrade: spd pedals
Quaker big bowl sachet every morning of my life for many years. I still look forward to it every morning and have genuine upset if I am travelling/doing anything that prevents my porridge routine.
Made with almond or cashew milk:
Handful dried raisins.
Some chopped walnuts.
Flaxseed sprinkle.
Half scoop of strawberry cream whey protein powder.
I'm in love.
Not this?
My pre-ride breakfast is fairly similar.
Porridge, almond milk, chopped nuts, raisins and honey.
It might seem like it, but it made sense at the time - to keep the road chain line they adapted hubs to the road width. It kept things within the specific 'limits' (guidelines set out by Shimano and SRAM) and also eliminated heel strike. The 142mm hubs used in CX/MTB pushed the chainline outside of this limit on the shorter road chainstays. They made it an 'open standard' so anyone could use it... And sure enough, nobody else took it up!
The only thru-axle bike I own and I'm using the wheels with is my Diverge. With it's 'already SCS' AXIS wheelset, I would then have to change the hub on them if I went non-SCS for my other wheels and wanted an easy swap... I have the non-SCS hanger already, so you might have a point - the times I'm changing my wheelset will actually be very few so I could just change the hanger at the same time.
Although the 4Seasons are a good wheelset, I don't need a 'do everything' wheelset (I'm happy with the Axis 4 for that)... Unless I wanted to move away from SCS then they'd be an ideal replacement for them.
So what I'm really looking for is a thru axle ~30mm or so wheelset (for a slight aero advantage), 24/28H to keep weight down (<1700g with rotors) and 21mm internal width so I can run 28mm tyres (minimum)! Aero Disc are good, but quite pricey.
Sounds like a lot of work when you could probably just n+1 the problem away!
And I thought you were a hardy Scottish bloke, now I believe you're a skirt wearing lady who wanders the streets of Dundee looking for business.