Rooney - 2 B Sold

He was the same at Aberdeen, it's probably why he's been so successful but at the same time a lot of people will only put up with the abuse for so long.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Bitter, If I cared my frustration would be at Rooney not Manu. Most Evertonians I know would be happy to see him in pain. I don't harbour any grudges against either, I was angry for a week and moved on. I understood why he did it and understand again.

By poor man management I mean this fall out was supposed to have started in the dressing room with Fergie getting in his face and rooney giving it right back to him ten fold. That's if the rumours are to be believed and why not everyone else is happy to believe any rumour as long as it paints rooney negatively.

You don't need to be Einstein to understand getting in Rooneys face like that in the dressing room would not work in the same way it would Beckhams. Rooney would be more likely to break his nose because he can't control his temper as well as a giggs and is unlikely to back down.

Poor man management, Fergie knows one way. Shout and threaten. Which works with kids that won't give it back but not with someone like Rooney.
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Everything you has posted in this thread has been spot on, we dont get a long but from what I have heard from Fergie, he is a bully when things are going wrong, all smiles and nicey, hes old school bloke, nothing worst than going to work and having personal issue then getting shouted at by your boss, look at Beckham and his fame and lifestyle its just the same as Rooney.

I dislike Man Utd and its setup but I respect whats its won and its history same as Liverpool but no team can dominate, season after season.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Bitter, If I cared my frustration would be at Rooney not Manu. Most Evertonians I know would be happy to see him in pain. I don't harbour any grudges against either, I was angry for a week and moved on. I understood why he did it and understand again.

By poor man management I mean this fall out was supposed to have started in the dressing room with Fergie getting in his face and rooney giving it right back to him ten fold. That's if the rumours are to be believed and why not everyone else is happy to believe any rumour as long as it paints rooney negatively.

You don't need to be Einstein to understand getting in Rooneys face like that in the dressing room would not work in the same way it would Beckhams. Rooney would be more likely to break his nose because he can't control his temper as well as a giggs and is unlikely to back down.

Poor man management, Fergie knows one way. Shout and threaten. Which works with kids that won't give it back but not with someone like Rooney.
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Seriously Danny don't believe all the Rubbish you read in the papers about how Fergie manages his players. Even if there is a shred of truth in what your saying(which I don't believe for one minute) it hasn't harmed players like Giggs and Gary Neville who have shown Rooney how to be a model pro.

If you wan't to make an informed opinion listen to the managers. pro's and ex pro's who WILL tell you one of the reasons why he has managed to win so much and stay at United for such a long time is because he has been able to modify and evolve his management style rather than the big stick bigger stick approach you seem to think he takes. If anything, his management style has evolved rather than be one size fits all. But hey don't you and Cheets let fact get in the way of blind and ill informed paper tittle tattle to help the stereotype you choose to believe.
 
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cheets64 said:
I dislike Man Utd and its setup but I respect whats its won and its history same as Liverpool but no team can dominate, season after season.
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They did dominate season after season when they were the biggest spenders. They are no longer the big spenders in the league. Both Chelski and City are above them now in sense of money power.

It would be a shame if Utd ended up where Liverpool are next season :D
 
Loki said:
Nick the problem you have is that you think Real Football works like Computer football, put the highest bid in, offer to pay the highest wages etc, book them and they will come.

You keep citing that we are wrong to buy young talent yet if I am not mistaken ( and I am sure this will pee off a lot of opposing fans) but Ronaldo a few years ago was absolutely world class. Yes there were the Messi's Gerrards, Lampards, Torress etc but Ronaldo was world class and head and shoulders above his peers. Amazing that such young talent was bought before he reached such heights and we didn't have to pay a kings ransom for such potential.

It goes without saying that no Utd fan worth his salt wants the amount of debt the club is saddled with. Especially when you consider that some if not all the money could be reinvested into the club.

We all want the cream of the crop and we all want the best talent on display. What I want is the best team in England over 11 mercenaries wearing a red shirt any day of the week. Give me 11 Hungry young lads desperate for success willing to bust a gut for the club and his team mates and the fans. more importantly give me a player who knows his value, knows he is world class and is willing to stick around and fight to make the team better. What we want as fans and what players want is fastly becoming two worlds apart.
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no there is nothing wrong with signing some young players.. but when the only players you sign are young players and are shipping out your top players who have matured into being consistently good, you end up with a squad that is in constant state of turmoil as the new young inconsistent players bed in and the ones who ahve bedded in are leaving..

theres nothing wrong with scouting for younger players we have a sucessful history of it. but we also have a history of buying the best in england or the best around too..

i mean obertan? whats all that about then? park? just buy 1 good concrete winger a player thats going to weigh in with some serious poundage like malouda.
 
United have Nani and Valencia, whatever you may think of them, that's a better choice of wingers than nearly anybody. Most teams are lucky to have 1 decent winger, never mind 2
 
Thread title needs changing to 'Rooney - 2 B Dead'


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While Rooney was pondering the fall-out from several hours of high-level talks at Old Trafford, a 40-strong group of United supporters, many wearing balaclavas and hooded tops, had travelled to his home in Prestbury, Cheshire to warn him off any move to Manchester City. Witnesses reported a gathering outside his house, with a banner reading "If you join City you're dead".
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Nickg said:
no there is nothing wrong with signing some young players.. but when the only players you sign are young players and are shipping out your top players who have matured into being consistently good, you end up with a squad that is in constant state of turmoil as the new young inconsistent players bed in and the ones who ahve bedded in are leaving..

theres nothing wrong with scouting for younger players we have a sucessful history of it. but we also have a history of buying the best in england or the best around too..

i mean obertan? whats all that about then? park? just buy 1 good concrete winger a player thats going to weigh in with some serious poundage like malouda.
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Cant argue with some of the points you make but Obertan and Malouda is a pretty unfair comparisson. Given that he was pretty much toilet in his first 2-3 season for Chelsea, only last year and this year are we seeing what a good player he is.
 
okay, robben.

they are good players sure it might take a season or so to settle. but that does give you a good comparison that we buy; bebe, obertan, tosic, lejic...

its not like we just signed David Silva is it? yet we could really do with him.
 
Nickg said:
okay, robben.

they are good players sure it might take a season or so to settle. but that does give you a good comparison that we buy; bebe, obertan, tosic, lejic...

its not like we just signed David Silva is it? yet we could really do with him.
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You mean Robben who we were all set to sign before he went to Chelsea? :confused:
 
yea...that one who ended up at chelsea.

like essien did...and how ronaldinho ended up at barca not old trafford. or like Mikel - who actually signed for us and instantly realised he made a mistake and went to chelsea anyway.

im sure theres a reason for all of these 'near misses'....so instead we just got for this crowd now to guuarantee that fergies ego doesnt get hurt again?

bebe, obertan, tosic, lejic, park, valencia,

liam miller?!
 
i like how bbc transfer news has a whole section for rooney gossip :p

WAYNE ROONEY GOSSIP
Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney has performed an amazing U-turn by telling Red Devils boss sir Alex Ferguson he does not want to quit Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Mirror

United are exploring ways for Rooney to salvage his Old Trafford career.
Full story: Daily Express

Manchester City striker Carlos Tevez has called on former team-mate Rooney to follow in his footsteps by moving to Eastlands.
Full story: Daily Telegraph

An angry mob of balaclava-clad United fans gathered outside Rooney's Prestbury home on Thursday night, holding a banner urging the want-away striker not to join City.
Full story: the Sun
United full-back Patrice Evra believes Rooney should not play for the club again following his public declaration that they have not signed players who can make them competitive.
Full story: the Independent

Rooney has stunned Real Madrid by demanding to become the highest paid Galactico if he joins Cristiano Ronaldo at the Bernabeu.
Full story: Daily Mail

Chelsea have no intention in getting involved in a bidding war for Rooney, with Blues owner Roman Abramovich keen for the club to become self-sufficient and balance its books.
Full story: Daily Star
As uncertainty about Rooney's future drags on, United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is planning a radical overhaul of his squad next summer with up to 10 players facing the axe.
Full story: the Times (subscription)

Ferguson is looking to sign AC Milan youngster Alexandre Pato as a direct replacement for Rooney if the player leaves Old Trafford.
Full story: caughtoffside.com

Sunderland boss Steve Bruce is praying that Black Cats striker Darren Bent does not get dragged into a transfer merry-go-round which could be sparked by Rooney leaving Manchester United.
Full story: the Sun
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I would say Rooneys position has now become untennable, and there is no way he could perform the Uturn suggested by the Fail and stay at United. However, we all know everyone who's spent the past week lambasting him will turn on their heels so fast it'l make their head spin, and he's back to being the best striker in the world :rolleyes:
 
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lulz

Fair play on the spelling though. I like my morons literate
 
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