RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

Rup · 18 Apr 2023 at 22:11

RatmanGB said:
Any coil whine? I got the MSI Ventus for the other half and the coil whine is atrocious, waiting to hear back from OCUK whether I can get a replacement.

I'll let you know tomorrow when it arrives. Was also looking at the Ventus but wanted a metal backplate.

Rup · 18 Apr 2023 at 22:11

rare said:
What’s the construction of it like, is the backplate metal?

Believe so, will advise when it arrives tomorrow.

Calin Banc · 18 Apr 2023 at 22:38

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The only dGPUs which seem OK value are the RX6600/A750 when they are around £230ish and the odd RX6700XT deal when its closer to £300. After that the price/performance seems to go out of whack.

According to TPU 6700xt is less than 10% in raster ahead of my 2080, so not much value in that. A worthwhile option would be a 6800xt from AMD, but vs. 4070 it only has the extra 4GB vRAM, while being equal or weaker with everything else (I think I can get the 4070 a bit cheaper).
Then, of course, both a ripoff in terms of pricing at this point so... no buy.

Lucky enough, tried TLOU and Hogwarts, both run decent still in Surround, so let the waiting game continue.

JediFragger · 18 Apr 2023 at 22:45

rare said:
What’s the construction of it like, is the backplate metal?

Yes afaik.

Major774 · 18 Apr 2023 at 22:48

Rup said:
Yes £589, elsewhere.

There is a Palit 4070 asking £549.98 from a UK retailer.

Boom… prices are dropping already!

Sgt_Major · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:08

Major774 said:
There is a Palit 4070 asking £549.98 from a UK retailer.

Boom… prices are dropping already!

That's a £550 RTX 4060, no thanks....

For this kinda money I expect a XX70ti tier GPU. I shall wait for 1)price drops, 2)refreshed range fixing price/performance for all tiers, 3)failing that Blackwell.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:16

Calin Banc said:
According to TPU 6700xt is less than 10% in raster ahead of my 2080, so not much value in that. A worthwhile option would be a 6800xt from AMD, but vs. 4070 it only has the extra 4GB vRAM, while being equal or weaker with everything else (I think I can get the 4070 a bit cheaper).
Then, of course, both a ripoff in terms of pricing at this point so... no buy.

Lucky enough, tried TLOU and Hogwarts, both run decent still in Surround, so let the waiting game continue.

For newer buyers its relatively OK,as your RTX2080 was £700 IIRC,and its half the price with more VRAM.So if you are upgrading from a slower card its OK.

But the issue is if you have anything better there is no decent value option to upgrade to.

opethdisciple · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:17

So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

Author_25 · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:18

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
For newer buyers its relatively OK,as your RTX2080 was £700 IIRC,and its half the price with more VRAM.So if you are upgrading from a slower card its OK.

But the issue is if you have anything better there is no decent value option to upgrade to.

I am on a 1070 and the 4070 does call out to me and holding myself back as hoping there may be something better for my money or prices drop.

uscool · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:22

opethdisciple said:
So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

Best from a selection of turds , what a sad state we're in should be 60 tier card at lower cost so yeah doesn't make me feel any better about it

Rroff · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:24

opethdisciple said:
So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

If you are happy buying a x60 class card for more money than the previous gen x70 sure... unfortunately for some people it might be their only option if they need an upgrade or need a GPU :s

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:25

Author_25 said:
I am on a 1070 and the 4070 does call out to me and holding myself back as hoping there may be something better for my money or prices drop.

An RX6700XT is around twice the speed of a GTX1070 8GB with 50% more VRAM. They have gone below £350 several times if you shop around. The lowest I have seen is £330ish.

The RTX4070 12GB is 42% faster than an RX6700XT at 69% more money. So thanks to Nvidia,the RX6700XT might have dropped below £300,but as the RTX3060 is the same price,and is massively slower the price drops have slowed down.

opethdisciple said:
So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

It's 44% faster than an RTX3060TI FE for 60% more money. Turing all over again. It's literally the RTX3060 replacement. This whole generation is a joke from both Nvidia and AMD.

gpuerrilla · 18 Apr 2023 at 23:51

opethdisciple said:
So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

Not sure I would switch cards tbh, although I agree with one of your statements. The chart above makes it pretty clear its a sku lower yet a tier higher in price! :cry:

opethdisciple · 19 Apr 2023 at 00:08

All I'm saying is that if the 4070 performs like a 3080 then for 1440p gaming it will be a decent card.

Plus access to DLSS 3.

Prices are reasonable compared to the rest of the line-up.

4070ti seems like an odd card. Because it has no where near enough vram for a card of that price in 2023.

Rroff · 19 Apr 2023 at 00:22

opethdisciple said:
All I'm saying is that if the 4070 performs like a 3080 then for 1440p gaming it will be a decent card.

Plus access to DLSS 3.

Prices are reasonable compared to the rest of the line-up.

4070ti seems like an odd card. Because it has no where near enough vram for a card of that price in 2023.

A card you could have had 2+ years ago for not much more (at times when the price was closer to MSRP) than the 4070 is now... it is only nVidia brainwashing making it seem half reasonable.

Sgt_Major · 19 Apr 2023 at 00:25

opethdisciple said:
So it looks like to me the best Nvidia card of the 4000 series is the 4070.

If its anything like my 3080 which from benchmarks it is then it will be a stellar card for 1440p gaming.

Add in DLSS 3 and it will be a fantastic card.

There is very little my 3080 cant do at 1440p other than being let down by having only 10Gb vram.

The 4070ti imo has no place. Why pay so much money for a gpu with only 12Gb of vram. Waste of money.

The 4080 and 4090 are only warranted at 4k due to the extortionate pricing.

I cannot tell if this is serious or a wind up?....

Eddie99 · 19 Apr 2023 at 01:04

Rroff said:
A card you could have had 2+ years ago for not much more (at times when the price was closer to MSRP) than the 4070 is now... it is only nVidia brainwashing making it seem half reasonable.

Only if you had fast fingers to order within the 30 seconds before it was sold out.

shamus21 · 19 Apr 2023 at 05:06

You lads are trying to hard to find the good points about the RTX 40000`s so you can justify purchasing one. Simple answer if you have to go looking for a reason it is not worth it.

uscool · 19 Apr 2023 at 05:51

Eddie99 said:
Only if you had fast fingers to order within the 30 seconds before it was sold out.

I'll take that anyday, didn't have problems getting 3080 and 3060ti Fe only needed patience

uscool · 19 Apr 2023 at 06:00

opethdisciple said:
All I'm saying is that if the 4070 performs like a 3080 then for 1440p gaming it will be a decent card.

Plus access to DLSS 3.

Prices are reasonable compared to the rest of the line-up.

4070ti seems like an odd card. Because it has no where near enough vram for a card of that price in 2023.

Looks like someone's been conditioned, you do realise this should be 60 tier product , they pushed tier up and DLSS 3 fake frames making you think you getting more

I don't have an issue with DLSS 3 I have issues with the tier placing and pricing

Being shafted twice not only jumping up a tier but also insulting you by increasing the price on that tier lmao