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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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Soldato
Should show in some statistics if the market is switching slightly from both value and disdain reasons. Seems quite a lot (contrary to belief) are buying last gens high end Radeons or going the 7900XT, maybe that's the sign people are fed up with nvidia's pricing.
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Possibly. From Nvidia, the performance uplift from the 3070 to 4070 just wasnt enough. For me the only Nvidia card that would have been worth it from a performance perspective was the 4080, but there is no way on earth I am paying £1,200 for a graphics card.
Soldato
Yeah I agree, this is why there is a chance they could pull a Turingesq 'Super' and offer a similar performer for slightly cheaper.
Caporegime
Its like..... if i wanted to buy a 3080 in 2020 for around £700 i would have bought a 3080 for around £700 in 2020, i didn't, so what makes you think i would to buy a 3080 under another name in 2023 for around £650?
Do you think i'm mad? Or just plain stupid?
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Im really tempted by an xtx after the holidays, my last was a 5870 in xfire.
unlikely, would have been forced to charge a similar high price. Probably one of the main reasons why they bailed in the first place, knowing what was coming.
Caporegime
No, not even EVGA could have saved it.... too far gone mate, too far.
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Caporegime
Right, the RX 6800 is 223 watts board power consumption, compared to 201 watts. the 6800 has 2 more 32Bit lanes and memory IC's, that will acound for about 15 watts.
The 4070 is 16% faster, a whole 16%, it makes the 4070 about 25% more efficient, much less if you take in to consideration the memory architecture differences.
One is on 7nm, the other on 5nm, when you apply some critical thinking to it, its not great, i would not have apologized "but its really efficient" like some of these tech jurnos did, maybe if it was 150 watts, to me it should be closer to that on such an advanced node given its performance.
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That power consumption though and just as summer is coming, bad deal IMO.
If you game on average 2 hours a day and watch videos 1 hour a day, assuming you keep the GPU for 2 years before upgrading then at current electricity prices a 6950 XT would cost you an extra £105 over a 4070.
Soldato
There's features like Radeon Chill, and their Software suite if your concerned about power consumption. But now that's its a major SP eh @CAT-THE-FIFTH I guess lets focus on that! 
Lowering performance to save power? You can do that on a 4070 too.There's features like Radeon Chill, and their Software suite if your concerned about power consumption. But now that's its a major SP eh @CAT-THE-FIFTH I guess lets focus on that!
Soldato
RX 6800 is 250W board power at stock.
If you are using the sensor reported power consumption it ignores memory.
AMD Radeon RX 6800 Review
The Radeon RX 6800 is the world's most power-efficient graphics card, better than anything NVIDIA Ampere has to offer. The smaller brother to the RX 6800 XT comes with a smaller heatsink, at more affordable pricing, but retains the lavish 16 GB VRAM memory buffer.
Sustained furmark is measured at 254W, which is within margin of error of AMDs stated TDP.
When not CPU bound it will reach that.
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I'm guessing you might be using the gaming average. Which is a fair comparison. But it does need to be the same setup between the 6800 and 4070 to be a comptely fair comparison.
I would look for more recent like for like tests. Might still be 25%.
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Caporegime
when people cry foul and reach straight for the power bug slides.....RX 6800 is 250W board power at stock.
If you are using the sensor reported power consumption it ignores memory.
AMD Radeon RX 6800 Review
The Radeon RX 6800 is the world's most power-efficient graphics card, better than anything NVIDIA Ampere has to offer. The smaller brother to the RX 6800 XT comes with a smaller heatsink, at more affordable pricing, but retains the lavish 16 GB VRAM memory buffer.www.techpowerup.com
Sustained furmark is measured at 254W, which is within margin of error of AMDs stated TDP.
When not CPU bound it will reach that.
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I'm guessing you might be using the gaming average. Which is a fair comparison. But it does need to be the same setup between the 6800 and 4070 to be a comptely fair comparison.
I would look for more recent like for like tests. Might still be 25%.
Good job you edited that
Yes, gaming average, no one sits playing furmark all day, the RTX 4070 is 201 watts also average gaming.
TDP is meaningless, Intel's 220 watt CPU's have a 95 watt TDP.
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when people cry foul and reach straight for the power bug slides.....
Good job you edited that
Yes, gaming average, no one sits playing furmark all day, the RTX 4070 is 201 watts also average gaming.
TDP is meaningless, Intel's 220 watt CPU's have a 95 watt TDP.
But it depends on the game used for that test, and also the CPU used. I think there are fairer more up to date comparisons out there.
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 review: an RTX 3080 challenger for $599
The Digital Foundry review of the Nvidia RTX 4070, looking at performance, power efficiency, RT, DLSS 3 and more. This page: design, power efficiency testing.
www.eurogamer.net
Here you can see it is 35% more efficient than the RTX 3080 with RT Off. RDNA2 was something like 20% more efficient than Ampere.
So 0.65/0.8 is something like 20%.
Caporegime
But it depends on the game used for that test, and also the CPU used. I think there are fairer more up to date comparisons out there.
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 review: an RTX 3080 challenger for $599
The Digital Foundry review of the Nvidia RTX 4070, looking at performance, power efficiency, RT, DLSS 3 and more. This page: design, power efficiency testing.
Here you can see it is 35% more efficient than the RTX 3080 with RT Off. RDNA2 was something like 20% more efficient than Ampere.
So 0.65/0.8 is something like 20%.
ffs.... slide wars.
Just stick to averages. Don't worry, Jenson doesn't care, he's too busy baking EVGA effigies to even notice you not defending him hard enough.
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