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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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Bencher said:
No but it looks terrible even on ultra. The ground textures from what I've seen look like a 10 year old game next to plague tale Requiem,and that one uses 5 to 6 gb in 4k Ultra. I might give a go to forspoken just for fun
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Game alone is over 8Gb 3080FE 4K DLSS Quality:


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Bencher said:
Well I never understood what 12gb will not last even means. I played hogwarts on a 3060ti 3440x1440p with everything maxed out except textures (high) on ultra. As I've said before, it looks better than fsr with ultra textures, so I'd rather have the option of dlss then extra vram

Is there a game currently that you can't play on 8gb cards? I wanna try that's why I'm asking.
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So are there good ports or PC only games that don't run at 8gb don't think so.

However Total War: Warhammer 3 seems to use more that 8gb Vram at 4k ultra (based on forum posts) The campaign map does not need high FPS on the campaign map so it's purely because your graphics are forcibly downgraded that is an issue.

On this game you can utilise system ram but I don't know the ins and outs of the performance pros and cons of uncapping Vram but utilising slower system memory. I haven't used the setting due to having ddr3 memory.
 
Grim5 said:
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Imagine buying a card released in 2022 for 1100$ (6950xt), happily installing it on your computer to play a - by then - 2 year old game (cyberpunk), only to realize you need to actually drop to 720p with RT on. To play an OLD game with your brand new 1100$ amd card. But since it doesn't run out of vram, i guess its fine right? :D
 
This is 4k native ultra on a 4090 without RT. I can upload pics from the market area as well if you want, it's' the heaviest area of the game with tens of npcs and vram peaks at 6.3 allocated there.


So if one if not the best looking game is fine with 6gb of vram, I think having 12 on the 4070 is absolutely fine. That doesn't mean there won't be games that require more. In fact, if I had to bet, I would bet there will be an amd sponsored game maybe even this year that will require over 16gb vram, just to make the 4080 look bad. Im taking bets :D
 
Calin Banc said:
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Doesn't seem to affect the 1% lows. Probably not the same thing between allocated and needed?
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The RTX3060 is beating my RTX3060TI.The RTX2080TI is thrashing an RTX3070TI which has a faster CORE. Looks like 10GB is the minimum needed but didn't some reviewers show the game can load lower level textures if there isn't enough VRAM? You can stand in one place and you can see the low and high quality textures being loaded and unloaded repeatedly.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The RTX3060 is beating my RTX3060TI.The RTX2080TI is thrashing an RTX3070TI which has a faster CORE. Looks like 10GB is the minimum needed but didn't some reviewers show the game can load lower level textures if there isn't enough VRAM? You can stand in one place and you can see the low and high quality textures being loaded and unloaded repeatedly.
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Indeed.
However, I guess players are adjusting settings to hit 60fps or thereabouts. How the game behaves with those applied (including upscalers), is how this should be judged.

With that said, yes, 10gb or so for the 3060/ti and 3070/ti would have been better.
 
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Calin Banc said:
Indeed.
However, I guess players are adjusting settings to hit 60fps or thereabouts. How the game behaves with those applied (including upscalers), is how this should be judged.

Without said, yes, 10gb or so for the 3060/ti and 3070/ti would have been better.
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This is why I thought the RTX3060TI FE price was about the limit of what I would pay for an 8GB card. I really don't know what Nvidia was thinking when they made the RTX3070TI. Basically an RTX3070 with GDDR6X which added nothing. 16GB of GDDR6 probably would have cost the same.
 
Calin Banc said:
Indeed.
However, I guess players are adjusting settings to hit 60fps or thereabouts. How the game behaves with those applied (including upscalers), is how this should be judged.

With that said, yes, 10gb or so for the 3060/ti and 3070/ti would have been better.
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As I've said before, I finished this game on a 3060ti at 3440x1440p dlssq with everything maxed out (including rt) and only textures set to high. Looks better than native with ultra textures and much better than fsr with ultra textures, I have some screenshot i can share

So what's the bottom line. Do we actually care about image quality, or do we just want all the settings to be ultra even though image quality might be horrible (like with fsr)? Sadly this thread cares about the former.

And just for the lulz, tlou at 720p LOW textures needs more vram than plague tale at 4k Ultra.
 
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