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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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It's not really convincingly beating the RX 6800 XT, I'd pick either.

The RX 6800 XT is a bit cheaper and has more VRAM.

Considering that the RTX 3080 TI is getting 61 FPS (lows) at 1440p in The Last of Us, I doubt the RTX 4070 would give brilliant performance in this title:

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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Because we all know that for the initial period there will be "RRP" cards,and as time progresses the FE drops will get less,and so will the "RRP" cards.

But don't worry you will save some power! :cry:
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Also Nvidia is subsidising 50% of all AIB first batch from what is being said so they hit msrp, after that well we all know what will happen during the first few weeks as prices creep up....
 
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g67575 said:
It's not really convincingly beating the RX 6800 XT, I'd pick either.

The RX 6800 XT is a bit cheaper and has more VRAM.

Considering that the RTX 3080 TI is getting 61 FPS (lows) at 1440p in The Last of Us, I doubt the RTX 4070 would give brilliant performance in this title:

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The one percent lows on the 4070 can go lower than 61, it is on the edge with the VRAM. https://youtu.be/k0Zq_iyNCcs?t=461
 
Summary of price /performance at today's pricing:

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$600 Mid-Range Is Here! GeForce RTX 4070 Review & Benchmarks

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With some RDNA2 cards coming out a bit ahead of the RTX 4070 in terms of value.

They reckon the RTX 4070 should be priced at $500 instead.
 
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Also people think Turing is bad right? The RTX2060 Super had half the shaders of the RTX2080TI.

Well,lets look at the RTX2060 Super:

65% of the performance of the RTX2080TI at qHD. So the RTX2060 Super and RTX3060TI at £350~£400 were roughly 2/3 the performance of the top dGPU at qHD.

The RTX4070 is 58% of the RTX4090 at £600. The true replacement for the RTX2060 Super and RTX3060TI is the RTX4070TI.


Apart from the fact you kept moaning,and then caved in due to FOMO. So now you have just justified the entire Nvidia pricing model. That also justifies AMD also pricing stuff stupidly too. They will just include a bit more VRAM and price their equivalent "cheaper" but both will be a huge price increase in realterms.

So don't complain again about pricing because you self justified literally a near doubling in price over Ampere for an RTX3060 class dGPU,or nearly 50% over the relatively better RTX2060 Super and RTX3060TI. Like all the people who moaned about Titan pricing or Turing V1 pricing and still bought it. Or the people who "had" to buy a dGPU at elevated pricing during the pandemic despite complaining. Now we see the result.

Also I can get £300ish after fees for my RTX3060TI too,yet I am not literally spending £300,just to get some extra VRAM and 40% extra performance:

My RTX3060TI cost me £369 UNDER two years ago. So I am paying nearly 60% more for 40% more performance. That means worse price/performance nearly two years later.

When the RTX3060TI came out it cost about the same over the RTX2060 Super and offered 40% extra performance:

The RTX2060 Super was $400 and the RTX3060TI was the same price. That means even looking at the US price,that is a 50% increase to get the same 40% improvement.
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So, people age expecting 450-500 bucks for an actual 4050, madness :))
 
g67575 said:
Is the consensus on the RTX 4070 FE 'meh' from most people then?

Only had a very quick look at the techspot review earlier.
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As the saying goes there's no such thing as a bad product just a bad price, while the 4070 is the best card for 1440p in terms of price/performance at $600 it's only really the best because it's swimming in a sea of turds.

e: Having said that i would be interested in a cost per frame analysis that looked at previous generations, iirc HUB showed a cost per frame @ 1440p of around $5 for cards you can currently buy but i wonder what it used to be when the 9, 10, 20 series cards hit the markets in the past.

2nd e: Just gone over HUB reviews of the 2080 & 3080 and at 1440p the lowest cost per frame cards were in the $3.50 to $4 around the time of the 2080 release and $4 to $4.50 around the time of the 3080.
 
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Summary of price /performance at today's pricing:

youtu.be

$600 Mid-Range Is Here! GeForce RTX 4070 Review & Benchmarks

Thermal Grizzly: https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/produkte/522-cpu-contact-frame-for-12th-gen-intel-by-der8auerSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/...
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With some RDNA2 cards coming out a bit ahead of the RTX 4070 in terms of value.

They reckon the RTX 4070 should be priced at $500 instead.
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Imo it should be $399 or $449. Anything over that is too expensive. And the Rtx4060 should be $299 or $349. The 4070ti should be $549 or $599 and 4080 should be $699 or $749 and the 4090 should be $999
 
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Grim5 said:
Imo it should be $399 or $449. Anything over that is too expensive. And the Rtx4060 should be $299 or $349. The 4070ti should be $549 or $599 and 4080 should be $699 or $749 and the 4090 should be $999
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Wow Grim. You are on fire the past few days. I find myself agreeing with your posts and giving you likes.

It's like a roller-coaster with you. One minute you make sense, next minute you talk total crap :D
 
I think the thing putting me off it priced at £589, is the rather strict max power limit of 200-220 watts depending on which model you buy.

If it could be overclocked to make it faster than the RTX 3080, I may've been interested. There doesn't seem to be a good reason for limiting the maximum power.

My impression is that the card is generally a bit slower than the 3080 at 4K.

The ball is in AMD's court again.
 
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I am hoping the 7800XT will release with performance sitting between the 4070 and 4070 Ti, with 16Gb VRAM and a 256bit Memory Bus, with a price of £550. :D:D:D
 
Buckster said:
^^ hadn't thought of it like that - good analysis thankyou.

Efficient on Power though ! Reviews seem to be keen on power efficiency ........
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It is probably part of the reviewer guide,and reviewers still want to get review samples.
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Now, after it not mattering last gen since O'Leary no that other CEO who likes to moan about the cost of doing business, Jensen, was too tight to pay for TSMC and went with el cheapo Samsung 8nm for the gaming cards (but the big data centre money spinner, GA100, was of course on TSMC 7nm).

But after paying for TSMC for Ada and being ahead in perf/watt*, the Nvidia PR machine was bound to push perf/watt again. So predicable.

But no matter how margin obsesseed Nvidia are, they won't drop tensor from the gaming GPUs. I am sure they could save a huge amount of die space removing those. And they could probably run most of DLSS without them, but it would be an embarrassing climb-down. Irony being, that the RT evangelists would probably be happy to trade the tensors for more RT grunt!

* Although Navi31 isn't doing that bad considering it is chiplet - if Navi31 and Navi 31 were monoliths on TSMC 5nm they might even be ahead.
 
Troezar said:
If it actually hits £600 across the board it will be something. You know the 4070 is going to be more like £700 for the big name 16-pin versions.
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Considering the 4070ti can be regularly had for near £800 now, that would be rather stupid.

No way they can sustain loads of £700+ models of these.
 
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