RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[SpudMaster]

8GB was not cutting it for me at 1440p never mind 4K with DLSS. It's going to cost me £300 after selling my card, I can live with that.

All that whinging and complaining about prices just to stumble at the first hurdle

 

[g67575]

I think the most expensive ones will be priced at £650 - I doubt they perform better than the RTX4070 FE.

Unless I'm wrong and they release a model with a BIOS that allows much higher power usage.

 

[Szydero]

I think the most expensive ones will be priced at £650.

Unless I'm wrong and they release a model with a BIOS that allows much higher power usage.

There are some 4070 that draws 260w. At least I know the top Zotac can do that.

 

[Jimmy Weirdarms]

Considering the 4070ti can be regularly had for near £800 now, that would be rather stupid.

4070Ti cards are showing up for £630 here in Aus now, ~£680 equiv when you account for GSTvsVAT differences
Y'all are getting the shaft in the UK AFAICT, and that's usually our job over here!

 

[Troezar]

I think the most expensive ones will be priced at £650 - I doubt they perform better than the RTX4070 FE.

Unless I'm wrong and they release a model with a BIOS that allows much higher power usage.

There are 5 cards between £700 and £750 on OCUK. Filter by price Another 13 between £650 and £700...

 

[Jono8]

There are 5 cards between £700 and £750 on OCUK. Filter by price Another 13 between £650 and £700...

You'd genuinely have to be bananas to spend £750 on one of these.

I just don't get the economics of it. If you have £750 to spend on one of these, then there is no way you likely don't have enough free cash to get a 4070ti, or even a 7900 or 4080.

I used to get the Nvidia Halo card approach as it was just something shiny for rich people to splurge on.

Now that even mid tier stuff approaches £1000 I don't get it.

 

[Ayahuasca]

You'd genuinely have to be bananas to spend £750 on one of these.

You would, but plenty of people seem happy to spend more on cards. Just browsing a competitor, I see that 15 people have left reviews on a £900+ ASUS 4070ti. The percentage of people who leave reviews on cards they buy is tiny.

 

[g67575]

The prices on the RTX 3070 and TI seem weird. £500 for the cheapest for both models.

tbf, I don't think there's many left to sell.

The TI is finally sold below it's MSRP

 

[kalniel]

So £589 for base clocks 4070.. this could drop to £529 I guess when the 7800xt comes out if people are holding back on the 4070 and AMD get the 7800xt right (and the pound continues to strengthen vs dollar).

 

[Jono8]

Think i will wait this one out. Not so sure there will be shortages like we have seen, at least after a few months.

There is loads of stock of the new gen cards everywhere. Even OCUK have 13 models of 4070Ti in stock and 10 models of 4080. Same for all major competitors.

Things like 6950's might even come down more, maybe closer to the £500 mark. Then i might consider one.

 

[RavenXXX2]

lol Nvidia drop prices because of AMD, I don't think so.

 

[g67575]

lol Nvidia drop prices because of AMD, I don't think so.

AMD would have to take the lead with RDNA4 for that to happen, and release most of that generation in the same quarter.

Not gonna happen.

 

[g67575]

The lead that Nvidia has with ray tracing has narrowed since RDNA3 GPUs were released, this seems to be one of main factors in determining Nvidia's pricing.

If the lead narrows further, Nvidia might have to be a bit more competitive on pricing with the RTX 6000 series.

 

[Joxeon]

lol Nvidia drop prices because of AMD, I don't think so.

They will only drop prices if you don't buy them.

 

[Aegis]

The lead that Nvidia has with ray tracing has narrowed since RDNA3 GPUs were released

You sure about that? Whilst the raster performance of the 4090 is 1.6x that of the 3090Ti, the RT performance doubled (it was the only metric Nvidia was actually honest about).

(From my quick Googling, 6950XT -> 7900XTX = 54% improvement in RT performance)

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

You sure about that? Whilst the raster performance of the 4090 is 1.6x that of the 3090Ti, the RT performance doubled (it was the only metric Nvidia was actually honest about).

I think they might be talking about the lower tiers,where Nvidia has pushed them up one tier.

 

[g67575]

You sure about that? Whilst the raster performance of the 4090 is 1.6x that of the 3090Ti, the RT performance doubled (it was the only metric Nvidia was actually honest about).

Compare the products at the same price point. E.g around £800 for the RX 7900 XT and RTX 4070 TI.

The gap is much narrower than RDNA2 vs the RTX 3000 series.

 

[Aegis]

Compare the products at the same price point. E.g around £800 for the RX 7900 XT and RTX 4070 TI.

The gap is much narrower than RDNA2 vs the RTX 3000 series.

Yes, factoring current pricing into the equation the new Radeons do offer more this generation (although arguably, RT wasn't quite as important a selling point in the previous one).

Re: generational RT improvements - AMD really needs to pull something out of the bag for RX 8000 - the improvements in the 7000 series were welcome but they can't be just 50-ish percent faster each gen if Nvidia is doubling performance.

 

[gpuerrilla]

They will only drop prices if you don't buy them.

Meanwhile Raven:

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yes, factoring current pricing into the equation the new Radeons do offer more this generation (although arguably, RT wasn't quite as important a selling point in the previous one).

Re: generational RT improvements - AMD really needs to pull something out of the bag for RX 8000 - the improvements in the 7000 series were welcome but they can't be just 50-ish percent faster each gen if Nvidia is doubling performance.

The way AMD does RT is tied to it's shader count, and the physical shader count hasn't really increased this generation. However, there is some weird dual issue functionality which makes it appear as a much larger shader increase.