Ruddy inconsiderate cat owners...

krisboats said:
He's already mentioned a whole host of things the owners could do, ranging from fitting spikestrips on neighbours fences to paying for sonic repellant things for them.

Like I said, if an owner came and complained about my cat specifically. I'd help him repel it. Until then, urm, what am I supposed to do? Cats have large territories. Should I pay for every neighbour to have cat repellers installed in a 5 mile radius?

krisboats said:
You not think that maybe it was done after it was dead? Besides, paintballs aren't going to have killed the animal, just sting it a bit. Maybe it had run through a paintball course during a match? Maybe a farmer wanted to use a paintball gun as a deterrant rather than killing it with an actual gun? Fox's are considered vermin, where as cats aren't really... so its yet another lame example on your part.

Trust me it had died from being blasted with paintballs. I didn't think I'd have to justify this but it was fairly obvious it's eye sockets were pounded with paint from close range in order to destroy it's eyes and nose. It had bled severely out of it's ears from the trauma of being shot point black with paintballs. The example isn't lame. If a cat is found dead from being shot at, how do you know it was killed for taking a dump, or was killed by a snotty 15 year old who's got his first air-rifle or whatever.
 
iCraig said:
And how do you do that? Apart from locking it up or moving to Yorkshire.
Isn't that really your problem?
iCraig said:
You gave no realistic suggestions, which is what people are trying to tell you.
What is unrealistic about not having a cat? What is unrealistic about having a litter tray in the house which would at least reduce the amount of crap in next doors garden? What is unrealistic about keeping it inside?
iCraig said:
Don't forget to call her a "selfish ****" :)
Is she being selfish if she recognises the problem?
 
WoZZeR said:
If someone was upset about cat poop in their garden I would hazard a very reasonable guess that they would make an effort to track down local cat owners and seek a solution. If they don't make the effort then they clearly are not very upset by it.
Following the responses here I am not suprised they do not bother. Firstly there is the issue with identifying the cat responsible, then finding out who the owner is, then trying to reason with what seem to be very unreasonable people. No wonder they just fire BB at it instead.
 
the-void said:
In all honesty I am on the lookout for plants that are going to deter cats rather than injure them. Although I might throw the odd toxic plant in, for good measure.

I understand from rumours that cats cannot stand mint plants and other pungent plants. Perhaps a border of these would stop them coming in. Although I imagine I will be getting complaints from my cat loving neighbours about the stench wafting across from my garden... lol.. ;)

Citrus things are supposed to bother them but surely the prikkastrip is simpler and more effective?
 
VIRII said:
Isn't that really your problem?

Yes, but my point is it's not a feasible solution. If you think people are going to move to a rural house for solely that reason, you're an idiot.

VIRII said:
What is unrealistic about not having a cat? What is unrealistic about having a litter tray in the house which would at least reduce the amount of crap in next doors garden? What is unrealistic about keeping it inside?

What is not realistic about having a cat? Urm, people want them, and a small inconvenience such as this obviously isn't stopping them.

VIRII said:
Is she being selfish if she recognises the problem?

Obviously, as you accuse me as being selfish despite me conceding that if a neighbour actually complained, I would do something. When you say recognise the problem, what do you mean? Realise your cat is *****ing everywhere, ponder for a few minutes, and then carry on, or move to Yorkshire? Or euthanase the cat? Or lock it indoors 24/7? What do you realistically expect cat owners to do? Apart from what I've already stated they should do if approached?
 
iCraig said:
Like I said, if an owner came and complained about my cat specifically. I'd help him repel it. Until then, urm, what am I supposed to do? Cats have large territories. Should I pay for every neighbour to have cat repellers installed in a 5 mile radius?
Why not?


iCraig said:
Trust me it had died from being blasted with paintballs.
LOL. You must watch too much CSI :D
iCraig said:
I didn't think I'd have to justify this but it was fairly obvious it's eye sockets were pounded with paint from close range in order to destroy it's eyes and nose.
Because other animals, insects and birds would never consider them as food....
iCraig said:
It had bled severely out of it's ears from the trauma of being shot point black with paintballs.
No way could it have been hit by a car and crawled off and died later.....
iCraig said:
The example isn't lame.
It is beyond lame.
iCraig said:
If a cat is found dead from being shot at, how do you know it was killed for taking a dump, or was killed by a snotty 15 year old who's got his first air-rifle or whatever.
You don't.
 
iCraig said:
Yes, but my point is it's not a feasible solution. If you think people are going to move to a rural house for solely that reason, you're an idiot.
If you think you have the right to allow your cat to crap in other peoples gardens then you are an idiot.
iCraig said:
What is not realistic about having a cat? Urm, people want them, and a small inconvenience such as this obviously isn't stopping them.
Because it is not them getting inconvenienced. You still can't give any reason why you should be allowed a cat if it craps in other peoples gardens can you.
iCraig said:
Obviously, as you accuse me as being selfish despite me conceding that if a neighbour actually complained, I would do something.
Except you can't explain how a neighbour is going to identify your cat and track it down for a 5 mile radius to your house ..... they have "big territories you know". If it is impossible for you to tail your cat to collect its crap then how is your neighbour supposed to?
iCraig said:
When you say recognise the problem, what do you mean? Realise your cat is *****ing everywhere, ponder for a few minutes, and then carry on, or move to Yorkshire? Or euthanase the cat? Or lock it indoors 24/7? What do you realistically expect cat owners to do? Apart from what I've already stated they should do if approached?
Get a litter tray. Let the cat out after it has crapped. That reduces the amount of crap causing a problem. There is NO reason whatsoever why you can't at the very least do that is there?
 
VIRII said:

It would cost tens of thousands of pounds, and maybe, just maybe when I knock on the doors they say. "I'm not fussed about it, I'd rather not have repellers all around my garden etc" You're living in a dream world if you think it's a realistic solution.


VIRII said:
LOL. You must watch too much CSI :D

The only US show I watch is House.


VIRII said:
Because other animals, insects and birds would never consider them as food....

I don't know why you're picking at this, but no. It's eyes had been splattered upwards out of the sockets, fluid had tried and matted the fur in it's path, and each eye socket was bathed in paint. What more do you want? Why would a animal rip it's eyes out, smash them against the animal's face, and then leave them?

VIRII said:
No way could it have been hit by a car and crawled off and died later.....It is beyond lame.

It had been shot to death. It was bleeding from it's ears and side where the skin had been shot and hit again and again with paintballs. What do you want from me?
 
iCraig said:
It had been shot to death. It was bleeding from it's ears and side where the skin had been shot and hit again and again with paintballs. What do you want from me?
How do you know it had been shot to death and NOT hit by a car?
Are you some kind of medical expert?
You do know that dead animals can still bleed right, that that nice juicy steak has blood in it.....
 
VIRII said:
If you think you have the right to allow your cat to crap in other peoples gardens then you are an idiot.

I don't allow it per say. Stop trying to twist my stance on this. My viewpoint, for the final time is: I'm aware that cats crap. I know it's an annoyance for some people. However, it is not a large enough problem for me to do something as drastic as you're suggesting. The same way, I know full well that certain things that everybody does day in day out, annoys other people directly. However nobody is expecting them to employ some radical solution to deal with it. It's cat poop for christ's sake, outside of this thread I've never heard anyone even mention it.

VIRII said:
Except you can't explain how a neighbour is going to identify your cat and track it down for a 5 mile radius to your house ..... they have "big territories you know". If it is impossible for you to tail your cat to collect its crap then how is your neighbour supposed to?

They obviously can because when our cat was being fed off a neighbour, he spotted us and came over and asked if it was alright to keep feeding him.(The brown and white tabby) He loved cats but didn't want to over feed him. We told him it was fine.

VIRII said:
Get a litter tray. Let the cat out after it has crapped. That reduces the amount of crap causing a problem. There is NO reason whatsoever why you can't at the very least do that is there?

Pointless. The owner's aren't going to care if you are trying to reduce the crap. Do you think the OP would hesitate to shoot at the cat if it did a dump, even if the owners had made it do one before they let it out? I can see where you're coming from, but it isn't a solution, just making you feel better about the fact that your cat is crapping everywhere.
 
VIRII said:
How do you know it had been shot to death and NOT hit by a car? Are you some kind of medical expert? You do know that dead animals can still bleed right, that that nice juicy steak has blood in it.....

It was in Wales, on a caravan site next to a farmers gate. No roads nearby. Christ almighty, why do you even care?
 
iCraig said:
I don't allow it per say. Stop trying to twist my stance on this. My viewpoint, for the final time is: I'm aware that cats crap. I know it's an annoyance for some people. However, it is not a large enough problem for me to do something as drastic as you're suggesting. The same way, I know full well that certain things that everybody does day in day out, annoys other people directly. However nobody is expecting them to employ some radical solution to deal with it. It's cat poop for christ's sake, outside of this thread I've never heard anyone even mention it.
So as long as you like having a cat you don't care if it causes others problems. Nice person.
iCraig said:
They obviously can because when our cat was being fed off a neighbour, he spotted us and came over and asked if it was alright to keep feeding him.(The brown and white tabby) He loved cats but didn't want to over feed him. We told him it was fine.
Well make your mind up then, either it is possible to track them and clear up after them or it isn't. Either they have a 5 mile radius or they tend to just nip a few doors down.
Which is it?
iCraig said:
Pointless. The owner's aren't going to care if you are trying to reduce the crap. Do you think the OP would hesitate to shoot at the cat if it did a dump, even if the owners had made it do one before they let it out? I can see where you're coming from, but it isn't a solution, just making you feel better about the fact that your cat is crapping everywhere.
It is not a COMPLETE solution but it is some ways towards one. If you halve the amount of crap that your cat puts into other peoples gardens it is both considerate AND a partial solution. The fact that you are so unwilling to do ANYTHING to reduce the problem says it all.
 
iCraig said:
It was in Wales, on a caravan site next to a farmers gate. No roads nearby. Christ almighty, why do you even care?
You know cats do not necessarily die immediately after being hit by a car? Sometimes they die the next day etc? I care because you have stated it as though it is a fact and I don't believe that to be true.
 
cleanbluesky said:
I've had people tell me that they appreciate my cat's poo, can you argue against this?

Not if what you say is true. What would be the point in arguing? Likewise you cannot argue with the fact that not everyone appreciates other peoples pets crapping on their lawn and the fact the don't care about what their pets do makes them totally inconsiderate in my opinion.
 
VIRII said:
You know cats do not necessarily die immediately after being hit by a car? Sometimes they die the next day etc? I care because you have stated it as though it is a fact and I don't believe that to be true.

The fox had quite blatantly been killed by a barrage of paintballs, you would agree immediately if you saw it. I didn't think you were going to get so pedantic so here are the full facts :rolleyes: :

It was nowhere near a road.
It had been shot in loads of places, including its legs.

Its face was a mess. Eye sockets bombarded with paint, its nose was bleeding too along with a decent amount of blood coming from its ears.

Its head was absolutely covered with polo-mint shaped bruises and lesions from paint ball impacts.

It had died at that spot seeing as the blood from it's punched open stomach had only stained the grass for about 3 metres.

The hole in the abdomen was about the size of a fist and was filled with paint. There were shots around the hole too.

Unless of course a car hit it, and punched a hole through it's abdomen, where it then got up and walked a few miles across a field without bleeding and then collapsed, bled from all orifices and the big hole in it's stomach. Until a kid came along with a paintball gun and then attacked it?

Come on. The animal was blatantly shot at, stunned and then bombarded with paintballs until it died from either bleeding to death from it's hole i nthe stomach or from head trauma. Happy now? :rolleyes:
 
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