Ruddy inconsiderate cat owners...

[B&W]

Yes you can. Buy a farm.

Bit over the top isnt it?

Sister got a kitten recently, it's been doing my mom's head in by pooping in the kitchen. This is despite having a litter tray which for the first couple of days it used fine, so then it goes outside and starts excreting and urinating in plant pots.

If it went around doing it in the neighbor's garden the right thing to do would be to buy them the equipment to cat proof it.

Apart from that and giving it away theres not much you can do tbh.

 

[VIRII]

I'll just edit out your answer that you've given me, and answer the question myself thanks. Because the problem is on a small scale. It's a minor annoyance that people have in their daily lives regardless if I have a cat or not. I don't like annoying my neighbours but unless one has a serious issue with it, it's not going to stop me having a cat. In the exact same way I know very well that by doing countless other things in my life that annoy people, isn't going to stop me from doing it.

How large a problem it is for others is not for you to decide is it.
Clearly given the amount of cats being shot and the range and cost of products on sale because of this problem it is more than "a minor inconvenience".
You consider your "pleasure" from owning a cat more important than your neighbours displeasure at having to clean up after it.
You are a selfish person.

I don't want to deny an animal its freedom. That would be selfish.

And letting it crap in others peoples gardens isn't?

 

[VIRII]

Bit over the top isnt it?

Maybe, although the original use of cats was as rodents catchers on farms not house pets. However he claimed "there is no solution". Clearly there are several.

Sister got a kitten recently, it's been doing my mom's head in by pooping in the kitchen. This is despite having a litter tray which for the first couple of days it used fine, so then it goes outside and starts excreting and urinating in plant pots.

Exactly. Now imagine it was next doors cat doing this to your garden.

If it went around doing it in the neighbor's garden the right thing to do would be to buy them the equipment to cat proof it.

I agree.

Apart from that and giving it away theres not much you can do tbh.

I agree. However the point of the thread is to examine if cat owners are inconsiderate to their neighbours. Clearly they are.

 

[iCraig]

How large a problem it is for others is not for you to decide is it.

Yet you're inferring it's a big enough problem for cat owners to need to get rid of their cats?

Clearly given the amount of cats being shot and the range and cost of products on sale because of this problem it is more than "a minor inconvenience".

There are niches in consumer markets for bloody everything. Just because there's cat repellent on the shelves doesn't mean there's a cat crap epidemic.

If a neighbour knocked on my door and said "Your cat (and described it) is crapping on my lawn and it really bothers me" I would honestly help him sort it out. Buy him cat repellers and try and keep an eye on my cat. There is nothing else I could do though. Buying a ****ing farm or having the cat put down is just ridiculous. Especially if the neighbour comes back and says "You didn't have to give the cat away mate! It was only a bit of poo I wanted sorting!"

You consider your "pleasure" from owning a cat more important than your neighbours displeasure at having to clean up after it.
You are a selfish person.

Nope. So when's your wife sorting out the problem?

 

[Hellsmk2]

If you can't monitor your cat or ensure that it doesn't crap in other peoples gardens then don't have one.
You want a cat so tough if I don't want it crapping in my garden because your desire for a cat is greater than my right to have a garden that your cat does not crap in?
I think you need a reality check.

Would you accept that excuse from some chav parents whose nasty offspring urinated up your front door? Well he's an independent 5 year old he needed to go, what do you want me to do, monitor his movements or keep him on my property .......

So the basic crux of your argument is that is that all cats should be indoor cats. That's so unbelievably stupid. I can tell a child not to urinate on your door. I can't tell a cat the same thing. I have nothing more to say.

 

[WoZZeR]

You are jumping to conclusions here VIRII, unless a neighbour does clean up after other peoples cats have pooped on his garden or is likewise offended by cats doing poops in his garden, then no harm has been done. It is only an issue if someone complains or is offended.

Calling someone selfish for owning a cat is quite possibly correct but a bit over the top when it is unlikely there is a single individual in the UK, if not the whole world who doesn't prioritise themselves somewhere near the top of the list.

 

[cheets64]

So say my niece ends up going in the back garden to PLAY and she finds some cat **** and touches it and ends up ill would it be ok for me to go round to the every cats owners house and let a dog attack them because its in its nature?

There is no excuse for a cat crapping in someone’s garden and shrugging it off as nature its not fair and its disguising and dangerous.

 

[iCraig]

I agree. However the point of the thread is to examine if cat owners are inconsiderate to their neighbours. Clearly they are.

Yes but only as inconsiderate as pretty much everyone else in this world when people do something that directly annoys other people.

Inconsiderate = Yeah to a certain degree.

Selfish = No.

 

[VIRII]

Yet you're inferring it's a big enough problem for cat owners to need to get rid of their cats?

It is down to the cat owner to ensure that their cat doesn't bother their neighbours. How you do that is down to you.

There are niches in consumer markets for bloody everything. Just because there's cat repellent on the shelves doesn't mean there's a cat crap epidemic.

I guess there's a niche market in shooting them too?

If a neighbour knocked on my door and said "Your cat (and described it) is crapping on my lawn and it really bothers me" I would honestly help him sort it out. Buy him cat repellers and try and keep an eye on my cat. There is nothing else I could do though. Buying a ****ing farm or having the cat put down is just ridiculous. Especially if the neighbour comes back and says "You didn't have to give the cat away mate! It was only a bit of poo I wanted sorting!"

I gave you several suggestions on how you *could* deal with it. Which one you choose to use is down to you. How will the neighbour know it is your cat that is crapping on his lawn in the dark by the way?

Nope. So when's your wife sorting out the problem?

No idea. Perhaps she'll be like you and try to pretend that there is not a problem and that if there is then it is not her responsibility?

 

[VIRII]

Yes but only as inconsiderate as pretty much everyone else in this world when people do something that directly annoys other people.

Inconsiderate = Yeah to a certain degree.

Selfish = No.

Does everyone else in the world leave crap in other peoples gardens? Nope.....
Are you selfish? Yes because now that you are aware of the issue you are still trying to duck it and play it down.

 

[VIRII]

You are jumping to conclusions here VIRII, unless a neighbour does clean up after other peoples cats have pooped on his garden or is likewise offended by cats doing poops in his garden, then no harm has been done. It is only an issue if someone complains or is offended.

Calling someone selfish for owning a cat is quite possibly correct but a bit over the top when it is unlikely there is a single individual in the UK, if not the whole world who doesn't prioritise themselves somewhere near the top of the list.

I have found cat crap in my garden. Who should I complain to? Who owns that tabby cat? Which cat did it? How can people complain if they don't knwo who to complain to? The assumption is that just because no-one has complained that no harm is done.

 

[VIRII]

So the basic crux of your argument is that is that all cats should be indoor cats. That's so unbelievably stupid. I can tell a child not to urinate on your door. I can't tell a cat the same thing. I have nothing more to say.

Nope the basic crux is that you do not have aright to allow your cat to crap on other peoples gardens.

 

[iCraig]

It is down to the cat owner to ensure that their cat doesn't bother their neighbours. How you do that is down to you.

And how do you do that? Apart from locking it up or moving to Yorkshire.

I guess there's a niche market in shooting them too?

Cats are shot at for many reasons. I saw a dead fox the other day peppered with paintball splats. There's no clear line between what animals are killed out of vegence and what are killed by mindless thugs who enjoy shooting at animals.

I gave you several suggestions on how you *could* deal with it. Which one you choose to use is down to you. How will the neighbour know it is your cat that is crapping on his lawn in the dark by the way?

You gave no realistic suggestions, which is what people are trying to tell you.

No idea. Perhaps she'll be like you and try to pretend that there is not a problem and that if there is then it is not her responsibility?

Don't forget to call her a "selfish ****"

 

[WoZZeR]

I have found cat crap in my garden. Who should I complain to? Who owns that tabby cat? Which cat did it? How can people complain if they don't knwo who to complain to? The assumption is that just because no-one has complained that no harm is done.

If someone was upset about cat poop in their garden I would hazard a very reasonable guess that they would make an effort to track down local cat owners and seek a solution. If they don't make the effort then they clearly are not very upset by it.

 

[iCraig]

If someone was upset about cat poop in their garden I would hazard a very reasonable guess that they would make an effort to track down local cat owners and seek a solution. If they don't make the effort then they clearly are not very upset by it.

Nail. Hit. Head

 

[the-void]

Considering how all the cat owners other than VIRII are unable to see that they are being unreasonable, selfish and inconsiderate by being unable to accept that it is wrong for their pet to crap in my garden I have decided on the most humane approach I can think of.

Having done a little research I have decided what my garden needs is some plants around the border of my lawn.

Daffodils are a good bet.
Some branching ivy.
English ivy
Mistletoe
Onions

I am considering sprinkling apple seeds all over my lawn as well. I believe these plants are quite toxic to cats.

Therefore I now accept it is perfectly acceptable behaviour to allow their cat to crap everywhere in my garden. I have no doubt that the same cat owners have no issues at all about what plants I decide to grow in my garden.

Your cat will be perfectly welcome to venture in my garden and leave its little toxic waste parcels, but it does so at its own risk and has to risk getting a little toxic waste back at it.

Oh, the joy. I am off down to the Garden Centre first thing tomorrow armed with a list of toxic cat plants and to find out what i can realistically grow in my garden.

 

[WoZZeR]

Considering how all the cat owners other than VIRII are unable to see that they are being unreasonable, selfish and inconsiderate by being unable to accept that it is wrong for their pet to crap in my garden I have decided on the most humane approach I can think of.

Having done a little research I have decided what my garden needs is some plants around the border of my lawn.

Daffodils are a good bet.
Some branching ivy.
English ivy
Mistletoe
Onions

I am considering sprinkling apple seeds all over my lawn as well. I believe these plants are quite toxic to cats.

Therefore I now accept it is perfectly acceptable behaviour to allow their cat to crap everywhere in my garden. I have no doubt that the same cat owners have no issues at all about what plants I decide to grow in my garden.

Your cat will be perfectly welcome to venture in my garden and leave its little toxic waste parcels, but it does so at its own risk and has to risk getting a little toxic waste back at it.

Oh, the joy. I am off down to the Garden Centre first thing tomorrow.

Welcome back to the thread dude.

May I recommend 'Catnip' plants?

Not sure about onions, my cats often lie in the onion patch.

 

[the-void]

In all honesty I am on the lookout for plants that are going to deter cats rather than injure them. Although I might throw the odd toxic plant in, for good measure.

I understand from rumours that cats cannot stand mint plants and other pungent plants. Perhaps a border of these would stop them coming in. Although I imagine I will be getting complaints from my cat loving neighbours about the stench wafting across from my garden... lol..

 

[krisboats]

And how do you do that? Apart from locking it up or moving to Yorkshire.

He's already mentioned a whole host of things the owners could do, ranging from fitting spikestrips on neighbours fences to paying for sonic repellant things for them.[/quote]

Cats are shot at for many reasons. I saw a dead fox the other day peppered with paintball splats. There's no clear line between what animals are killed out of vegence and what are killed by mindless thugs who enjoy shooting at animals.

You not think that maybe it was done after it was dead? Besides, paintballs aren't going to have killed the animal, just sting it a bit. Maybe it had run through a paintball course during a match? Maybe a farmer wanted to use a paintball gun as a deterrant rather than killing it with an actual gun? Fox's are considered vermin, where as cats aren't really... so its yet another lame example on your part.

You gave no realistic suggestions, which is what people are trying to tell you.

He gave plenty of examples... see my first point.

 

[krisboats]

In all honesty I am on the lookout for plants that are going to deter cats rather than injure them. Although I might throw the odd toxic plant in, for good measure.

I understand from rumours that cats cannot stand mint plants and other pungent plants. Perhaps a border of these would stop them coming in. Although I imagine I will be getting complaints from my cat loving neighbours about the stench wafting across from my garden... lol..

From the way i've seen them casually swan past my mums mint plants i'd say you'd need a fair amount of it.