Russell Brand.

Just dipping back in on the whole 16 year old thing....

Would I want my 16 yr old daughter dating a 30 year old? Of course not because we all know what men are like. I remember my mum stopping and confronting a guy on the street who was looking at my sister, 'what are you looking at? She's 11 years old, you freak'. This stuff happens.

Hell, even in my dad's generation it was socially acceptable to be attracted to school girls. These are arbitrary shifting lines in the sand, in some cultures girls are married off very young when, to us, they are literally children.

What is societally acceptable varied a lot and over time. Especially relevant in a historical context.

I would hope that a 30 year old man would want to 'go out' with someone with more substance than a 16 year old but that's not always the case. Brand, like many men, is visually driven and as an addictive type personality, is looking for that dopamine hit. A pretty young woman will fire up all those receptors in the brain and probably the reason for the 'black eyes' (pupils dilate when physiologically aroused, this is different from the other type of 'aroused')

As I said in a previous post, personally, I'd like the law to be more nuanced, it should be illegal to sleep with someone under 18 if you're over 18. 16-18 get their own category.

All that said, Russell approached a girl "of legal age" on the street and started a consensual relationship with her that she was happy to be a part of. Aside from the rough bedroom incident (again not illegal) I didn't hear much else that could be prosecuted.

It raises the point at least about what kind of person is interested in women much younger than themselves and gives us a chance to discuss whether current legislature should be amended as views have obviously changed in the last 30 years.
 
"more women have come forward with new allegations" according to a bbc breakfast news items. Details will follow i imagine.
 
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There's no formal charges or investigation been brought forward. There's no evidence. Anonymous accusations with politicians acting like he's guilty? What kind of society are we now living in where people can do this to men on the basis of nothing.

I don't know, why don't you ask Rob? He's pretty convinced of his guilt based on just these allegations and the fact he just doesn't like him.

Turns out, not all of it is consensual. That's the thing about being a "sex addict" (BS frankly), maybe you're not aware you're being a dirty rapist.

Funny that you didn't have the same opinions on Andrew Tate
 
Tate never claimed to be a Sex Addict
Why is the concept of being addicted to sex unbelievable to you?

Never had any good sex?

If you had, I should imagine you might understand why it has the potential to be additive.

We hear people the world over are addicted to porn now, getting some dopamine hit from something so readily accessible.

Imagine being in a position where sex is as freely accessible as porn. The chances of becoming addicted aren't that surprising.
 
Tate never claimed to be a Sex Addict

What's that got to do with being a rapist or not?

Tate has actually been charged by the police, Brand hasn't (yet), but you seemed convinced of Brands guilt but are gleefully looking forward to Tate going free.
 
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Just dipping back in on the whole 16 year old thing....

Would I want my 16 yr old daughter dating a 30 year old? Of course not because we all know what men are like. I remember my mum stopping and confronting a guy on the street who was looking at my sister, 'what are you looking at? She's 11 years old, you freak'. This stuff happens.

Hell, even in my dad's generation it was socially acceptable to be attracted to school girls. These are arbitrary shifting lines in the sand, in some cultures girls are married off very young when, to us, they are literally children.

What is societally acceptable varied a lot and over time. Especially relevant in a historical context.

I would hope that a 30 year old man would want to 'go out' with someone with more substance than a 16 year old but that's not always the case. Brand, like many men, is visually driven and as an addictive type personality, is looking for that dopamine hit. A pretty young woman will fire up all those receptors in the brain and probably the reason for the 'black eyes' (pupils dilate when physiologically aroused, this is different from the other type of 'aroused')

As I said in a previous post, personally, I'd like the law to be more nuanced, it should be illegal to sleep with someone under 18 if you're over 18. 16-18 get their own category.

All that said, Russell approached a girl "of legal age" on the street and started a consensual relationship with her that she was happy to be a part of. Aside from the rough bedroom incident (again not illegal) I didn't hear much else that could be prosecuted.

It raises the point at least about what kind of person is interested in women much younger than themselves and gives us a chance to discuss whether current legislature should be amended as views have obviously changed in the last 30 years.

Interesting post.

As it's become less 'acceptable'* for men to be attracted to younger girls the sexualisation of children has become more widespread through media, social media, education in some US states and Canada (drag in schools), porn being easily accessible etc. We're ****ing everything up somehow.

*I'd argue it's never been acceptable, just not challenged.

I like the idea in bold.
 
What's that got to do with being a rapist or not?

Tate has actually been charged by the police, Brand hasn't (yet), but you seemed convinced of Brands guilt but are gleefully looking forward to Tate going free.

More coming out of the wood work, Brand will be questioned by the end of the week, watch this space.
 
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Guilty or not, this whole thing tells me something I already knew.

The world RB inhabits is a complete and utter cesspool.

But if there's credible evidence he needs to be put in the dock. Because until then, this is just a playground pile on.
 
More coming out of the wood work, Brand will be questioned by the end of the week, watch this space.

Irrelevant at this point in time though on his guilt or not, no?

To me it absolutely does equal. To believe anything else makes a mockery of our "innocent until proven guilty" stance in this country. You are innocent until found guilty, if you're found Not guilty then your innocent status doesn't change one iota. To think otherwise is the whole smoke without fire premise which means we might as well throw all suspected people into jail just because they're suspected.

It's a slippery slope into an Orwellian society

Unless you don't like them, then it's fair game?

And you called @dlockers a hypocrite...
 
I wonder how many women will come forward, how many of those go to the police and how many are genuine. Fair play to any who are, but too many will be chasing a pay check. The whole lot should stay anonymous until found guilty in a court of law.

Cliché moment inc.

When we were 16 we were going to nightclubs for 21 plus....
Some Women/girls at 16 are also obviously passable for 21+
Unless someone tells you oh btw I'm 16, physically I don't think it's that easy.

Very cliché moment over.

I’m sure plenty consented at the time too, especially since he was famous, but have since had a change of heart.
 
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Cliché moment inc.

When we were 16 we were going to nightclubs for 21 plus....
Some Women/girls at 16 are also obviously passable for 21+
Unless someone tells you oh btw I'm 16, physically I don't think it's that easy.

Very cliché moment over.

Comes to show at 16 females know EXACTLY what they were doing. They are not stupid or naive. But society wants to gives them a pass.

Women know from a very young age how to play the game with males to get what the want. Sexually and non sexually.
 
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I’m sure plenty consented at the time too, especially since he was famous, but have since had a change of heart.

Nah, that's beyond the realms of possibility. I'm sure it's been proven that our brains are fully developed by 16* so they knew at the time it was wrong or what they didn't want. ;)

*they aren't, unless you're Scottish.
 
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Comes to show at 16 females know EXACTLY what they were doing. They aren't not stupid or naive.

Women know from a very young age how to play the game with males to get what the want. Sexually and non sexually.

They are stupid and naïve, and that's precisely why older men shouldn't be near teenage girls.

Edit: should also caveat that young males are also stupid and naïve. Being one, I didn't know it at the time, but I did when I was older and able to reflect and this was behaviour into my earlier 20's that I regret.
 
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Comes to show at 16 females know EXACTLY what they were doing. They aren't not stupid or naive.

Women know from a very young age how to play the game with males to get what the want. Sexually and non sexually.
Yes but don't generalise too much. I'm sure a lot are still kids mentally too.
 
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