Russian airliner missing over Egypt

Hitman_Leon · 3 Nov 2015 at 11:49

scorza said:
Given the plane of was 30k feet, if the Islamic State were filming it then I imagine there would have to be some serious zooming going on which would presumably affect picture quality.

But CSI has shown everyone that if we really want to we could read the part numbers on the aircraft mid-flight and see the expressions on the faces of the people aboard.

Regardless, the only way an IS numpty would have hit that aircraft with anything is if it was already crippled by a problem and on it's way down. A lucky shot at an already unlucky aircraft by a jihadi who just happened to be carrying a MANPAD and be in the right place at the right time.

alx · 3 Nov 2015 at 13:15

Not sure if this has been mentioned already but a potentially interesting quote:

A US defence official told NBC that an American satellite picked up heat flashes around the time of the plane crash in the Sinai. They added that there was no missile trail - so puts doubt on the theory of the plane being downed by a surface-to-air missile.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...11971577/Russian-plane-crash-latest-news.html

drs101 · 3 Nov 2015 at 15:21

alx said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned already but a potentially interesting quote:

A US defence official told NBC that an American satellite picked up heat flashes around the time of the plane crash in the Sinai. They added that there was no missile trail - so puts doubt on the theory of the plane being downed by a surface-to-air missile.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...11971577/Russian-plane-crash-latest-news.html

space based lasers like the WTC ****, in fact was there even a plane? :eek:

Tefal · 3 Nov 2015 at 16:26

Boycey0211 said:
Nah actually got a bit of pride in our work rather than making it all about the overtime wage slip

*cough* the flap fell off *cough*

hehe we've got a fair few RAF guys at our place

RoboCod · 3 Nov 2015 at 16:33

drs101 said:
space based lasers like the WTC ****, in fact was there even a plane?

? You realise the US deploy sensors on satellites to detect things like sudden heat plumes right?

Boycey0211 · 3 Nov 2015 at 16:37

Tefal said:
*cough* the flap fell off *cough*

hehe we've got a fair few RAF guys at our place

That was years ago now mind and I'm sure it was down to metal fatigue it happened, cant remember all the ins and outs of it all though.

It was a Tristar too, renowned for being a static display aircraft and not getting you home.

Pawnless Endgame · 3 Nov 2015 at 16:45

drs101 said:
space based lasers like the WTC ****, in fact was there even a plane?

According to ED, Jews did WTC, so they probably did flight 9268, MH370 and MH17 as well!

Failing that, it'll be ISIS or Putin

Caged · 3 Nov 2015 at 22:47

drs101 said:
space based lasers like the WTC ****, in fact was there even a plane?

Have you watched Goldeneye recently by any chance?

gettothechopper · 3 Nov 2015 at 22:56

Boycey0211 said:
That was years ago now mind and I'm sure it was down to metal fatigue it happened, cant remember all the ins and outs of it all though.

It was a Tristar too, renowned for being a static display aircraft and not getting you home.

ugh tristar

if you even manage to take off you can look forward to squeaky interior panels and creaky overhead bins for 12 hours

balky12 · 4 Nov 2015 at 09:13

Here we go again...

RIP.

Felon · 4 Nov 2015 at 17:14

Looks like there might be some evidence to suggest the plane *may* have been brought down by a bomb, http://news.sky.com/story/1581778/no-10-explosive-device-may-have-downed-plane

scorza · 4 Nov 2015 at 17:29

Screeeech said:
Looks like there might be some evidence to suggest the plane *may* have been brought down by a bomb, http://news.sky.com/story/1581778/no-10-explosive-device-may-have-downed-plane

They must have some reasonably convincing evidence to have delayed all BA flights to S-E-S.

Freakbro · 4 Nov 2015 at 17:34

I think I'd be more surprised if it turned out not to be a bomb tbh

dowie · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:16

wouldn't exactly be too surprising if it was a terror attack by some follower of the religion of peace

Energize · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:36

Is there any actual forensic evidence, or is it the usual combination of speculation and every terrorist organisation in the nearby vicinity claiming responsibility?

DJMK4 · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:46

Energize said:
Is there any actual forensic evidence, or is it the usual combination of speculation and every terrorist organisation in the nearby vicinity claiming responsibility?

If they have suspended all flights to Sharm, I would expect they have something to go by.

Airports lose millions if flights in/out cannot occur, if this did happen by bomb, they need to seriously sort out the security in that airport, and I would think a major audit would go ahead on the security in other airports

That is one major major cockup if something got through, people should be all over this by now.

1985420 · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:54

Energize said:
Is there any actual forensic evidence, or is it the usual combination of speculation and every terrorist organisation in the nearby vicinity claiming responsibility?

They wouldn't suspend all flights without strong internal evidence. Thousands of British tourists will be stranded there and it will be costing millions. The government obviously know more than we do at this point, but I'm sure more details will come out in the coming days.

I'd bet my life savings on this now being an explosive device that was detonated.

r.i.p to those on board.

Jokester · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:55

I'm pretty sure they'll know there was an explosion on board now, it's just a question on whether it was caused by a bomb, or as dannyjo22 mentioned an explosion in a centre fuel tank like TWA 800.

Energize · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:57

If airlines had voluntarily suspended their flights I'd tend to agree, but for the UK and only the UK government to suspend flights doesn't mean much to me as they always put politics ahead of airline profits or concern for UK citizens.

Glaucus · 4 Nov 2015 at 18:58

I'm still going to stick my bet of 0p on faulty repair of the fuel tank or bulkhead.