Soldato
Russian airliner missing over Egypt
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They keep saying how our intelligence services have concluded that there was a bomb involved. Would that be the same intelligence services that told us that Saddam Hussein had WMD's?
I dont trust a word they say to be honest.
I dont trust a word they say to be honest.
Man of Honour
Putin has now cancelled all flights and they have around 45,000 on holiday there.
Why would they lie? Only Egypt and Russia have anything to gain from misleading the public. Cameron has come out of this well IMO.
Soldato
I flew in from Abu Dhabi this morning. Was expecting tightened security but we were told not to bother removing electronics or liquids from bags. They randomly stopped the odd person and asked them to open their bags.Damn, i better cancel my trip to Dubai then
Having said that, I left liquids in my laptop bag leaving Heathrow last weekend and nobody stopped me. Pretty shocking tbh. Normally it prompts a bag search and that swab analysis thing they do.
Since I work between London and the middle east it's pretty hard to stop flying out there. My advice is carry on as normal
Soldato
I flew in from Abu Dhabi this morning. Was expecting tightened security but we were told not to bother removing electronics or liquids from bags. They randomly stopped the odd person and asked them to open their bags.
Having said that, I left liquids in my laptop bag leaving Heathrow last weekend and nobody stopped me. Pretty shocking tbh. Normally it prompts a bag search and that swab analysis thing they do.
Since I work between London and the middle east it's pretty hard to stop flying out there. My advice is carry on as normal
To be honest everyone seems to be pointing every single aim at Sharm airport, which they should rightly do, but this should be a major operation to audit the security in a lot of major airports and hubs IMO.
They need to think outside the box here, not patch up Sharm's security and say all problems are fixed, not if there are other places with lax security.
These airports need to be on their toes, seems they are not operating with enough substance. And this sort of event is a very real threat, as we have seen.
Its quick to fall back and let things slip through the net, however there are threats which are getting smarter every day.
Carry on as normal indeed, however my advice to the officials would be to take this one balls up, and use it as an opportunity to audit and overhaul anyone who is not conforming enough to strict security measures.
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The UK is not catholic, it's literally illegal for the monarch to be catholic.
Soldato
Excellent advice. Now if you could package that up into a report along with the rest of your analysis and send it off to the Egyptian Home Office that would be lovely. A*
Soldato
And yet while there's outrage from Russians I notice a distinct lack of masked gunmen murdering people.
Caporegime
Give them time! Heh heh
The US and UK don't want Russia in Syria. Anything to influence the Russian public is in their interest.
davisdavid doesn't seem to know very much tbh...
Associate
No airport is watertight. Even the most heavily policed airports in the world aren't completely safe from threats to their security just because they have militarised and intelligence services working there 24/7. Western airports can tighten up security measures all they want, all it does it reduce the chances of the holes in the swiss cheese lining up. That doesn't mean that they never will. Inevitably they will line up, and somewhere like Heathrow or JFK is going to be global front page news. Sharm is a relatively soft target, and this plot seems to be a fair representation of the critical timelines for making such an incident possible. LHR/CDG/JFK/FRA would be a ridiculously high-stakes catch, the economic and societal destabilisation that would come about by a high-profile incident at one of those places. The media did a good job of saving blushes when FRA was a day or two away from being done years ago. I'd like to bet Sharm was a tell-timed and seemingly very well executed snap shot that won't be repeated anytime soon anywhere else.
Typical British turn it round to be all about them, just watched the news of people landed in Gatwick only to moan they spent a day extra in Egypt. Never please anyone, wish the reporters would turn round and say 'or you could have been on the flight last Saturday'.
Your comparison to road deaths in the uk was the most ridiculous completely irrelevant nonsense I've read on here in a good while.
If you honestly think that the Middle East or Muslim countries are safe places to be in the world right now I am absolutely astonished by your naivety/ stupidity. You realise there is currently war/ rebel violence in pretty much every country in the Middle East?
Lying about a bomb only for it to turn out to be a mechanical fault is hardly going to help.
By which point a lot of people's minds are already made up. It's the sleeper effect.
Soldato
That's quite a bold statement. There are many places in the middle east which are perfectly safe to visit.
I frequently travel to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE.
One thing I've learnt about travelling to the middle east is how much hyperbole is generated but the world's media and by people posting online who have zero first-hand experience of the region - apart from what they're told by the BBC or in newspapers.
If you want to visit somewhere which does leave you feeling a little vulnerable - try Johannesburg!
