Soldato
What's a reasonable temp for max temps? I keep my pc pretty quiet, is 81C okay for these?
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Ryzen 3900X thread
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Yea I am and it just works out of the box, no need to fiddle with voltages. I am very happy with that board and the 3900X combo.
Well this is just fabulous. Having not got anywhere trying to fix my clocks at 4.3 through the BIOS thought I'd give Ryzen Master a try. This didn't work either only now it seems as though it may have inexplicably corrupted some files on my system as games which should be launching in VR are not and on the one I was testing with in particular my save game has gone AWOL even though the local files/settings are still showing in my documents 
Maybe a reinstall of Steam and Oculus will fix, hopefully I don't have to reinstall Windows for a second time!
Starting to think I should have gone with the 9900KS.
Maybe a reinstall of Steam and Oculus will fix, hopefully I don't have to reinstall Windows for a second time!Starting to think I should have gone with the 9900KS.
Soldato
Well this is just fabulous. Having not got anywhere trying to fix my clocks at 4.3 through the BIOS thought I'd give Ryzen Master a try. This didn't work either only now it seems as though it may have inexplicably corrupted some files on my system as games which should be launching in VR are not and on the one I was testing with in particular my save game has gone AWOL even though the local files/settings are still showing in my documents
Starting to think I should have gone with the 9900KS.
Why? Because something went wrong when you tried to overclock? Strange logic.
Did you change the BCLK? That's the only thing I have heard that potentially messes with data integrity while overclocking.
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Wouldn't even bother with overclocking these. Ram sure, but the CPU itself seems like a load of faff for not much gain.
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Yeah I don't quite get why you are trying to get an all core OC for gaming. Ryzen has all it's own algorithms built in and does all the OC'ing for you and will boost the cores required for demand using voltage and temperature limits depending on your board. The amount of heat you'll generate from cores being fixed at 4.3Ghz will degrade your single core boosting ability which will hamper game performance. You'll get much better increase in game performance by using high frequency, low latency RAM 3600Mhz CL16 uptyo a max of 3800Mhz before you have to split the IF divider. Though not all CPU's can get the IF to 1900Mhz for 1:1 with 3800Mhz RAM.
You will run into issues if you set some options in the BIOS and then try and control with Ryzen Master. For Ryzen master to control, settings need to be on auto in the BIOS. Some will set from Ryzen during a reboot.
I find using the auto OC in Ryzen Master easiest and set all 4 settings to Max values. So my Ryzen master shows both CCD's at 4.750 Ghz (+200Mhz) and just let the algorithms do their thing.
You will run into issues if you set some options in the BIOS and then try and control with Ryzen Master. For Ryzen master to control, settings need to be on auto in the BIOS. Some will set from Ryzen during a reboot.
I find using the auto OC in Ryzen Master easiest and set all 4 settings to Max values. So my Ryzen master shows both CCD's at 4.750 Ghz (+200Mhz) and just let the algorithms do their thing.
Soldato
Amen to this.
I use 1usmus power plan and had no issues on games. More gains are with ram tweaking to 3600C16-14 or 3800C16-15-14 with good subtimings.
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presumably it only 81ºC for a small proportion of the time?
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I too have used 1usmus ryzen dram calculator to tweak my dark pro 3200 cl14 memory timings and had no problems
Looks to be the case with the 3900X as with 12 core some are bound to be duds that cannot clock well. But this does not apply for other Zen 2 CPU’s like my 3600 where all 6 cores are strong and can do 4.4GHz with ease with even better voltage than stock. If I took this advice and did not do testing to see what the chip can do I would be leaving at least 10% performance on the table and end up with high temps.
Hell if I wanted to push it as far as I did my 4700K I could do 4.5GHz 24/7 on this chip, but I do not consider the extra voltage and heat to be worth the extra performance so I stick to 4.4GHz.
Not touched the BCLK. Thanks for the suggestion though.
As to why I'd want an all core clock in gaming? More performance. From what I could see in Ryzen Master 4.1 was the max boost I was seeing on any core before I went down the path of trying to get an all core overclock. With the 4.3 all core in place I was at least seeing some core occasionally boost to the this value. Temps not an issue, this chip is on a 60mm thick 480 rad (EK xtx coolstream) and the highest I've seen while gaming is around 45C. Even Prime 95 (blend test) couldn't get it out of the 60C's
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Many thanks for taking the time to post this up. Apart from the DRam voltage at 1.5v did you change other voltages like S0C?Yes but that is my settings, numbers don't age
That should be every setting, the ram is set to 1.5v
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SoC volts will help with Stability, maximum 1.2v but try not getting there if you can run a little less than that.
1.5v on the Dram is also the limit.
1.5v on the Dram is also the limit.
Soldato
Yes soc is at 1.125 I think the vddc and the other one are at 1.010
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Im still getting random crashes with this - its driving me nuts.
Temps are fine, have gradually pushed the memory voltage up.
Tearing my hair out here!
Temps are fine, have gradually pushed the memory voltage up.
Tearing my hair out here!
Soldato
Not touched the BCLK. Thanks for the suggestion though.
As to why I'd want an all core clock in gaming? More performance. From what I could see in Ryzen Master 4.1 was the max boost I was seeing on any core before I went down the path of trying to get an all core overclock. With the 4.3 all core in place I was at least seeing some core occasionally boost to the this value. Temps not an issue, this chip is on a 60mm thick 480 rad (EK xtx coolstream) and the highest I've seen while gaming is around 45C. Even Prime 95 (blend test) couldn't get it out of the 60C's
I'm a gamer too. I don't do a manual forced all core overclock, but in gaming I see between 4.35 to 4.4Ghz whilst gaming on all cores. If I do an all core stress test or cinebench run then I only see all core of only 4.2Ghz. Have you tested it stock whilst gaming and looked at say graphs in Afterburner to see what it was doing? Also there aren't many games that'll use all the cores, especially on a 3900X or are you playing something specific that does? You'll get more FPS increase by tuning the RAM than you will from an extra 100Mhz on cores. It's not just the temps of the CPU (nice big rad by the way) but the VRM's on the mobo also have an input. What frequency is that Ballistix Sport RAM at?
Soldato
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Could it be the chipset getting too hot i wonder? CPU And GPU temps playing Rage 2 are mid 60's, but its crashing. Literally everything stock.
Could it be the chipset getting too hot i wonder? CPU And GPU temps playing Rage 2 are mid 60's, but its crashing. Literally everything stock.
Soldato
What gfx card did you come from and what new one did you install? Did you use something like DDU to clean the old drivers? WHat type of crash is it? In event manager look at what happened at the time of the crash. Very annoying and feel for ya.
Soldato
From a 2080ti to a 2080ti, was an MSI and changed to the quieter Asus ROG 2080ti OC.
Had zero crashes before i switched cards.