But if the game isn't moving between ccds why would you want 3d cache on both of them?
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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D
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You wouldn't need the XBox Game Bar to tell it what's a game so it knows to keep it on the CCD with the cache. it would just behaving the same way a 7950X does and you get the 3D cache performance no matter what CCD the game was running in, which is usually both.
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Maybe but then you end up with a much slower cpu in every other task, and not much faster if at all in games either. And of course it would also be more expensive. I don't know, I prefer what amd has done, assuming everything will work as it is supposed to
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Yeah.
As i said before its not ideal but its probably the best solution available.
People wanted a 16 core 3D cache chip, AMD said, ok.... and here we are, i can see now why they didn't do it first time round, at least they are listening and trying.
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I know. What’s your point?
I'm waiting 2 things from amd, a single 12 core 3d ccx, and doing something about that idle / light load power consumption. Since my work involved a lot of spreadsheets, browsers, excels etc., my Intel cpu averages 8w under these workloads, while an amd cpu would be much higher.
Umm, no.
Heavy stress tests would find instability sometimes but other times, the heavy stress tests worked fine for hours, then three weeks later I encounter random wierdness with the system only to try and guess which one of the sub timings or group of sub timings I want to loosen. Then do the obligitory heavy stress tests that already worked with tighter timings, then nervously use my PC for the next number of days or weeks...
I went back to XMP for ~3 months with no issues of any kind and decided that that last little bit wasn't worth the time and trouble.
My 4090 overclocking, on the other hand, has been very straightforward. It doesn't overclock particularly well, but after pushing the core and memory to the fastest setting before performance regression. (Each value, one at a time) I have gone months without issue.
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Single 12 core CCX, not going to happen. 8w, Hmm, I can see your concern.
My concern is, as shown by reviews, some motherboards have the CPU drawing 50w at IDLE. I'm drawing 8 while working. It's not a concern to you?
very much so, I would choose an efficient board for sure.
We will once AMD move to a 16 core complex in a generation or two.
Do you think he's spreading information and enlightening us?
Whether you realise it or not you're promoting him by linking him to somewhere with traffic.
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I don't know how anyone got it to idle at 50w at all tbh. Mist reviews showing it doing a single thread workload like MP3 Encode have it around 34-38w. The 13900k in same workload is around 33w. It seems the AMD chip idles around the same as their base requirement for light single thread workload. To note the 13900k shows idling at 21w (stock settings PL1). So impressive if you are getting 8w total whilst in excel and browsing.
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It’s a topic of conversation. You’re on a forum remember? You don’t have to look at everything with such a negative view.
I give people on here a bit more credit than to take that guy seriously. Just a bit of fun.
You're right about the negative view, when I see people posting that "they heard" and "they saw" X, Y and Z issue and it turns out they're looking at some absolute BS youtube channel or garbage article and it goes on for pages I don't see the fun in linking stuff that you know isn't any quality.
Some people absolutely take it seriously because they see it and don't know any better.
Zen 4c has 16 cores per CCD, that's 16 full size cores.
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Some people don't know it isn't any good though or bad data and if they watch that person and take that as news they assume.
Is that actually confirmed that it is 8c CCX with two in a CCD?
At windows performance plan sure, it idles at 20+. If you set it to balanced it idles to less than 3w, and power saving i've seen it at 1.7w. The numbers appy to both 12900 and 13900, although the latter was idlying a tad bit higher
That's important to me and I see it as a problem for zen 4 cpus, especially 2 ccd ones
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