Saving the planet, one year on

Nice car!

I hady model 3 Performance battery replaced under warranty with a refurbished one, the ticket suggested it was £8k and a few hours work.

I think people can't get their heads around the fact that public charging for those who can charge at home is a very rare event (for average person). I'm just back from a 500+ mile, each way, trip to France. One stop had 19 empty changers... I've never had to queue in 2.5 years of ownership.
 
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cuke2u said:
I know how far back the ugly SUV goes, however we are in a thread about the coupe and I'm comparing the my23 vrs coupe with the my24 version, they are different in their powertrain setups and software.
Look if you're happy and contented with the performance of your car that's fine but I wouldn't be.
Even though an Enyaq Coupe is on my shortlist it would never be a vrs because, as the reviews have clearly pointed out, at over £54k they offer little benefit over a current 85 version and certainly the vrs is not anyway near my current vehicle that costs thousands less.
So be happy and enjoy!
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I'm not sure where your wires are crossed, but you entered the thread and mentioned a pre23 VRS, specifically. They don't exist. You then mentioned that Enyaqs don't provide full power throughout their charge capacity. As I say, that "might" be the case in other models, but I have failed to ever notice it in my VRS unless below 10pc remaining. So, I'm not sure how you can not be content with a car you either haven't driven, or haven't driven long enough to appreciate that whatever you've read or heard (from forums or poor journalism) is incorrect. In addition, although the my24 VRS has changes to power, battery and charge, it is not a significant enough upgrade to spot a noticeable difference. Even though it is touted as being a second quicker to 60(62), the way these cars deliver that power in such a linear format, you wouldn't know.
 
almoststew1990 said:
When you say you get 270 miles max, is that from 80% or 100% charge? Do manufacturers / I wish manufacturers would list the range of the car based on the recommended 80% typical charge.

Also how was the charging experience for the 10 times you were away from home (assuming public chargers?)
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100pc. 80pc you're looking at 230 ish

Out of the ten or so times I've had to charge publicly, I've had issues twice, but never been stranded. The average charge speed of the car publicly has been 57kW (I'm not including the council owned 7kW chargers which were free at work).
 
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Django x2 said:
I'm not sure where your wires are crossed, but you entered the thread and mentioned a pre23 VRS, specifically. They don't exist. You then mentioned that Enyaqs don't provide full power throughout their charge capacity. As I say, that "might" be the case in other models, but I have failed to ever notice it in my VRS unless below 10pc remaining. So, I'm not sure how you can not be content with a car you either haven't driven, or haven't driven long enough to appreciate that whatever you've read or heard (from forums or poor journalism) is incorrect. In addition, although the my24 VRS has changes to power, battery and charge, it is not a significant enough upgrade to spot a noticeable difference. Even though it is touted as being a second quicker to 60(62), the way these cars deliver that power in such a linear format, you wouldn't know.
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Pre23, not 'pre my23', but my apologies for not clarifying that my 'mention' referred to non vrs and not necessarily coupe versions also, if I actually inferred the coupe could be available in 2022..
EDIT: I don't actually think I did as I quoted the power differences between the my23 and the my24. That made the 0-62 quicker by 2 secs
So the upgrades that the my24 brought to the coupe were very significant, perhaps not to you, but certainly they are to me as there is a gulf between the 80 and the 85 versions Perhaps your expectations are lower than mine, and I have driven the my23 vrs and 80 versions, but not as they are virtually non-existent, a my24 vrs.
We splitting hairs here but the reviews are what they are and what we have to go on, plus I'm quoting owners of other ev's experiences and statements on forums as well.
If there are those who haven't shared this lowering of power when the batteries get to a certain level then all well and good and something I've noted.
They are still expensive but lack the premium feel that amount of money should bring.
A review for you of the non coupe vrs https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/road-tests/359326/new-skoda-enyaq-iv-vrs-2023-review
The vrs coupe though is well overpriced for what you get at £10k more than my m235i. If that's the price of 'saving the planet', don't kid yourself please, the forget it.
I'm not about to drive around in a fugly suv that has not much more than a washing machine motor as an excuse for an engine either.
 
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M235i and Enyaq are not bed fellows though, VRS or not, you buy each car for very different reasons. I have a 330e, and the VRS (pre FL) was a significantly faster feeling car, despite the performance on paper being similar. I had a M135I 2 weeks ago as a courtesy car, and what a fun car, great steering and chassis, but power delivery meant it felt slower than both my 330e and the Enyaq from a few weeks ago. Loved 135, but wouldnt want one for day to day.

Anyway, we are going off track, thanks for the thread @Django x2 its useful to get real life experiences over a decent period of time.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Make your mind up darling.
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I wish I could dear, it wasn't easy and that was the dilemma, but I was prepared to compromise. However an EV it won't be for at least two years as I've ordered a new M235i. If Skoda could have offered me the right car with the same deal as with the BMW then we could have maybe got there.
But they couldn't so in the end it was a no brainer...
 
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so you hadn't said what the Vrs predecessor was ? ( Disco ?) which reasonably would seem a closer relation than a 2 series.
 
cuke2u said:
Have you a list of 'interesting' EV's I could look at?
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You aren't 'really' interested in BEV's though, you pretend you are interested so you can moan about them costing more than your current M car, or your new M car, and that an SUV/Estate EV isn't anything like your M car... Just like my fat lazy moggy house cat is nothing like a leopard.

What value did you add other than complaining?
 
Journey said:
You aren't 'really' interested in BEV's though, you pretend you are interested so you can moan about them costing more than your current M car, or your new M car, and that an SUV/Estate EV isn't anything like your M car... Just like my fat lazy moggy house cat is nothing like a leopard.

What value did you add other than complaining?
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You seem to have ignored I was a whisker away from purchasing an Enyac Coupe. I would not have bothered spending hours researching different EV's and test driving some if I wasn't serious.Thus my constructive comments from my point of view are valid, not moaning.

Perhaps you could add something to the debate by producing a shortlist of interesting new, not preowned, EV's that can equate with my m235i in terms of performance, looks and quality? Must also not be an SUV, needs to have 4 doors and at least a 400l boot size. Plus I would only wish to put in £4.5k of my own cash, plus my current car's £6.5k equity and only pay £320 monthly?
I can still cancel my order if there are any alternatives.
 
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My 2p, quality wise, the 2 series isn’t great, neither is it a looker.

Have you looked at the I4 it’s a cracking car in either 35 or 40 guise. EV6 and Ionic 5 are smart looking cars aswell. Tavascan is due out soon, but it’s the enyaqs prettier sister, so you may not like it. Pretty much all the major manufacturers have a decent EV on the cars, Renault, Polestar, Mach E are all worth a look.

In general I’ve found even the Chinese brands to be decent quality. It all depends what tickles your fancy :p
 
I’m struggling with not SUV and Enyaq in the same sentence. As ever for a performance car I’d recommend an IPACE as they are very fast cars with great attributes… I’m also way way beyond a brand simp as I work with half the people who designed it.
 
cuke2u said:
not preowned
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cuke2u said:
Plus I would only wish to put in £4.5k of my own cash, plus my current car's £6.5k equity and only pay £320 monthly?
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Where you getting this brand new M240i or 235 or whatever for £11k down and £320 per month?

EDIT: Unless you mean it's on PCP, so you ned to share the actual amortised figure, contract length, APR, GFV, mileage allowance, excess mileage costs, servicing costs (if any), as it probably is really more like £600 per month over 4 years.
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
I’m struggling with not SUV and Enyaq in the same sentence. As ever for a performance car I’d recommend an IPACE as they are very fast cars with great attributes… I’m also way way beyond a brand simp as I work with half the people who designed it.
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You missed the part that states it is a coupe, and looks like one..
 
Tinders said:
My 2p, quality wise, the 2 series isn’t great, neither is it a looker.

Have you looked at the I4 it’s a cracking car in either 35 or 40 guise. EV6 and Ionic 5 are smart looking cars aswell. Tavascan is due out soon, but it’s the enyaqs prettier sister, so you may not like it. Pretty much all the major manufacturers have a decent EV on the cars, Renault, Polestar, Mach E are all worth a look.

In general I’ve found even the Chinese brands to be decent quality. It all depends what tickles your fancy :p
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Yes I looked at the i4 but it's a little too long for my partner as she will be driving it as well. She came with me when I test drove the Enyac Coupe and she felt happy she could drive it also. Whilst self proclaimed bmw purists don't like the series 2 gc, and you are entitled to your own opinion, everyone who's seen my car in the flesh doesn't agree with them or you.

However I'm asking for alternative suggestions, not discussing my choice of current cars. So I'll be going no further with that debate.
 
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Journey said:
Where you getting this brand new M240i or 235 or whatever for £11k down and £320 per month?

EDIT: Unless you mean it's on PCP, so you ned to share the actual amortised figure, contract length, APR, GFV, mileage allowance, excess mileage costs, servicing costs (if any), as it probably is really more like £600 per month over 4 years.
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Yes PCP and I assure you those are the costs to me, why do I need to put anymore detail, or justify it, I don't know as it is what it is. Servicing is an extra £20 a month.
 
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