I remember hearing so many of them. The fear of losing cheaper roaming charges and Match of the Day. As well as Eastenders might be cut off.
Scottish Inderef Mk2 - lets have a civilized discussion folks.
I remember hearing so many of them. The fear of losing cheaper roaming charges and Match of the Day. As well as Eastenders might be cut off.
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All we really care about is losing the protected geographical status of Scotch whisky!
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They don't need to adopt it overnight, but they do need to adopt it once they meet certain economic criteria. Their goal is to adopt it sometime in the early 20's.
If you only want a token military, that might work. But the Scottish regiments on their own (assuming they all left to join the new Scottish military) would not make up a credible military. Half of them would probably need to be let go so the budget could be redirected to balancing the forces. Plus, with the huge deficit, how will Scotland even pay for the equipment to arm them?
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Yay independent Scotland....Oh hang on.
So blinded by their hatred of the English they fail to see how illogical their demands are.
Joke to be honest
Who is 'our' army in that scenario?
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All of the Scottish regiments of course!
All of the Scottish regiments of course!
You mean all one of them.
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I actually did not know there was only one. Heh.
Yep, Royal Regiment of Scotland which is broken down into 4 battalions.
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Its not a joke but its in neither countrys advantage. A move like this cannot be politically led, it has to be centred with the people, industry and democracy. My cynical view is that politics wants more power, this is not an advantage to the people of Scotland if gaining political power impairs every other aspect of the countries operation.
I say industry as Scotland would need higher tax receipts to retain its current fiscal spending, so its not impossible but a lot more exporting I think would have to occur in order to balance the budget. A new country as small as this cannot survive easily, it has to start from strength of some sort. You cannot go forward knowing the first step is down into debt and raising funds to replace and repair lost trade.
There must be some advantage, the most telling on this is the discussion over currency. Of course like we see with the brexit the currency takes a knock in confidence, its a hard path to beat forward not a clear one.
Theres some advantages to Scotland trading independently but Im fairly certain this would require a good amount of export growth. This is how success is built and bargains are made globally as it will be on its own. Dont start a company if not ready with a good product, it just costs a lot to run and being a new country is going to be like thousands of new businesses and relationships to be setup
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If Scotland had a referendum and chose to leave the UK you can bet that the pro-EU establishment would then demand another England/Wales/N. Ireland referendum on Brexit and project fear x10 would be implemented, their ultimate goal at this point (now that their court cases and amendments have failed) is probably to break up the union and get what's left of the UK and Scotland signed up to the EU separately which is ultimately no different to the current situation. Well, except that they might even demand that Scotland and the weakened UK adopt the Euro if they want to rejoin, if Europe can break up the UK we're all going to get screwed if/when we go running back.
Brexit will be the route cause of breaking up the UK alongside the oft quoted 'non-reforming' accusation aimed at the EU. The UK should have got its own house in order first with a long over due reform of the Union. It is patently obvious that Scotland will in time become independent of the UK as it exists. Whether it is next year or in 5 years. People may say the polls show there is no appetite for it but the ballot box tells a different story. The SNP have been re-elected to Holyrood, not long before sending a record number of MPs to Westminster. Everyone knows what the SNP stands for ultimately and they are continually elected it is disingenuous to suggest they have no mandate for their overarching, principle, existence. Further, the fact they are far more competent in power than Scottish Labour or the Tories is a massive benefit. With council elections looming it will be welcome to see the last of Labour kicked to the kerb!
Simply, Brexit is the bomb that destroyed the United Kingdom as we know it. I have no doubt that if offered, a new agreement, after realisation of the component parts of the UK as sovereign nations, implementing similar administrative model as the EU to which all four nations are equal partners. How difficult would it be to accept and acknowledge all distinct parts of the UK as separate sovereign states and go the EU route with it. Own governments and perhaps regional in England if called for subservient to national governments under a UK council for reserved UK issues (defence etc.). It would be taken in a heartbeat by the people in Scotland and elsewhere within the UK. It would likely go some way to addressing the populist movements we have been increasingly seeing.
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