Soldato
One could say 'a new hope'.
****Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker - Official Thread****
One could say 'a new hope'.
has a darker feel to it which makes me a tad more interested
Soldato
I'm not putting the below in spoilers tags since Disney's featurette quoted above opens speculations by using Palpatine's voice changing to Snoke's and then Vader's, so it's all in the open.
If Palpatine is still alive, and the featurette above strongly suggests that he is, that would mean Anakin died for nothing. He changed nothing. He didn't bring an end to Sith order. The balance to the force was never restored. The one who was prophecised to bring it, never did. The empire never really folded. It's just gone into hide and seek mode for whatever reason by decision of the emperor to do some sort of holographic theatrical appearances, for whatever sick reason. I don't even want to attempt to dissect such plot holes..
The character assassination would be complete. Han's death meant nothing. It didn't change anything. Kylo didn't revert to Ben. Luke's death meant nothing. It didn't change anything and he died a coward who wouldn't fight shoulder to shoulder for his friends and cause in person, the green milk sucking weirdo hermit Disney turned him into. All of it, all the characters and their actions and sacrifices we followed for decades in previous trilogies were basically one big canon fodder for a shock punchline in line with Samuel L. Jackson getting eaten by a shark in the middle of a B movie?
We live in odd times.
If Palpatine is still alive, and the featurette above strongly suggests that he is, that would mean Anakin died for nothing. He changed nothing. He didn't bring an end to Sith order. The balance to the force was never restored. The one who was prophecised to bring it, never did. The empire never really folded. It's just gone into hide and seek mode for whatever reason by decision of the emperor to do some sort of holographic theatrical appearances, for whatever sick reason. I don't even want to attempt to dissect such plot holes..
The character assassination would be complete. Han's death meant nothing. It didn't change anything. Kylo didn't revert to Ben. Luke's death meant nothing. It didn't change anything and he died a coward who wouldn't fight shoulder to shoulder for his friends and cause in person, the green milk sucking weirdo hermit Disney turned him into. All of it, all the characters and their actions and sacrifices we followed for decades in previous trilogies were basically one big canon fodder for a shock punchline in line with Samuel L. Jackson getting eaten by a shark in the middle of a B movie?
We live in odd times.
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Anakins sacrifice meant that the fight could continue I guess. Palpatine would have been falling for ages given the size of the Death Star and we know that he had ways of accessing that force realm that we saw in rebels. Fingers crossed they explain it well. The prophecy was probably put there by palpatine in the first place.
Soldato
I reckon Luke secretly got Leia up the duff and so they hid their incestuous offspring (Rey) on Jakku and swore to never tell Han.
Explains why Luke didn’t want to have anything to do with her / Why Leia was happy to be separated from Han / Why Ben has a connection with Rey.
Explains why Luke didn’t want to have anything to do with her / Why Leia was happy to be separated from Han / Why Ben has a connection with Rey.
Caporegime
Amen. Star Wars is more depressing than living in the reality of a EastEnders.
Soldato
LucasFilm (as a Starbucks advert?) have released an interview with Ian McDiarmid (the actor who plays the Emperor) on the set so it's all confirmed now.
Caporegime
It could all just be a force ghost but we all know it will not be.
I laughed in dismay when I heard that the Emperor was coming back but I'm more on board with it now. I realise the whole saga is about the Skywalker family but Palpatine has also been the main bad guy for most of it. So I am thinking that the first time he was supposedly killed he really wasn't and that episode 9 will have a massive climactic battle against Palpatine/Rey/Kylo featuring all the force ghosts like Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Luke and maybe even Qui-Gon! That could be pretty epic, taking all of them to finally bring him down.
lol - i was saying that to some friends just yesterday.
Star Wars: Avengers of the Galaxy - Endgames
Exactly, its going to be that!
Soldato
Yep, and I remember the reviewers proclaiming the last jedi as the greatest star wars film ever and look how that turned out
They're blatantly paid off to say how great these films are no matter how bad they are.
Associate
Precisely.Yep, and I remember the reviewers proclaiming the last jedi as the greatest star wars film ever and look how that turned out
They're blatantly paid off to say how great these films are no matter how bad they are.
I’ll be seeing it on Friday, although it’s more a case of I’m doing so just to see how bad the film is. I’m expecting the proverbial dumpster fire in all honesty - as a fan of this franchise for over 40 years, I never thought I’d hear myself say that. I’m obviously part of the fan base that Disney now considers ‘toxic’, so it’ll be the last time.
Amazes me how Disney can make such a dogs breakfast of the films, yet at the same time produce a fantastic TV series like The Mandalorian. Guess it’s down to the writers.
Soldato
I flat out refused to pay to see any more after the force awakens. I'll probably watch the new one when it's on streaming just for something to do. But the films I grew up with are pretty much dead. Turned into something that isn't aimed at us fans of the originals. I am quite enjoying the mandalorian though.
I cannot wait, to see the film on Thursday. I do have a Cineworld Unlimited card. So seeing it in cinema is not a waste if it ends up not good. But after the recent TV spots I am more excited and intrigued by how it will end.
I also think all this talk of, the franchise is dead to me and my childhood is ruined, is a little over the top and childish in itself. No it's not ruined anything as those films are still there to watch. You didn't enjoy the recent films. That's fine, move along, they weren't for you.
Same way I didn't enjoy the prequels, however I don't go on and on about it all the time. I just don't watch them.
I also think all this talk of, the franchise is dead to me and my childhood is ruined, is a little over the top and childish in itself. No it's not ruined anything as those films are still there to watch. You didn't enjoy the recent films. That's fine, move along, they weren't for you.
Same way I didn't enjoy the prequels, however I don't go on and on about it all the time. I just don't watch them.
Associate
Yep, I go to the cinema to be entertained, have my thoughts provoked, or as a source of escapism, not to be lectured on social justice issues and to be told what a shallow, dreadful individual I am based solely on my gender. Look at Finn and Poe in Last Jedi - cookie-cutter characters not much more than comedic relief and hot-headed toxic masculinity respectively.
No problem whatsoever with strong female characters - the likes of Ripley and Leia being cases in point. What I do have a huge problem with are blatant, impossibly-perfect, never-failing Mary-Sues.