We do
Although one is a lunatic, one hasn't scored in the prem yet and the other is on loan
No, you have one. The others have all done nothing as of yet.
Nice ninja edit.
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No, you have one. The others have all done nothing as of yet.
Nice ninja edit.
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Yeh
Well we have two but one is on loan. The other two are quality though just not proven in the Premier League at the moment.
Erm no, there is no proof to it so just a rumour.Fed up of you already
a lot of City fans are of him though. I think he can become great for us if he has a full pre season and does not get injured.
well to be fair I did state the Arsenal FA Cup game as an example where the system was used well
Why did you put him in your team then?
I only said at the beginning of the season Chicarito may need a rest after a hectic summer (travelling and playing wise) he will have
For the majority of the season I would hope expect him to start
I hope Rio plays a full season in 2011/12 but I really dont expect anything like that currently
Experienced gk - surely that means Reina if anyone (I dont think Buffon is a realistic target - he would surely cost well over £20m given how much they paid for him). All the other gk's we have been linked with are early 20's and certainly promising but its arguable whether they are "experienced". Possibly Neuer but I just dont see him leaving Germany unfortunately
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Out of interest dude, what problems have the citeh fans had with kol?
He gets forward way too much and he shoots from impossible places.
There is also a lot of doubt about his defending ability as well. I however think that he will improve massively next season.
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Lucas has signed a new long term contract with us today. Fantastic player both on and off the pitch and nice to see he's finally getting the recognition he deserves
Lucas has signed a new long term contract with us today. Fantastic player both on and off the pitch and nice to see he's finally getting the recognition he deserves
Excellent news
Not sure why the club haven't said how long the deal is though
Well i agree to an extent but if he does go forward it is rare that it is productive unlike Evra and Cole are.not being funny biz, but surely someone has to get forward in that side
That is the problem.
And we go forward more than people seem to think. For example we have outscored Tottenham who play this brilliant attacking football. Goals, Cleansheets+boring football > Attacking football imo
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He;s like 22 or something, has strengths that none of the UTD strikers have. Is good with his feet, excellent in the air...English...Could be a great striker partner ship with rooney and chicarito as the pacey option?
I know 35mill is a lot..If you sell berbatov for 15 and find the rest then i dont see why not. but obviously that isnt how it happened chronologically.
He is far more of a player than say, Jan Koller, or Carsten Jancker ever was and still has some of their properties...
I still wouldn't ***** 35 million on him, you're the first person to moan when we sign someone unknown kid that 'could' be great but turns out not the best.
Imagine if we paid 35 million for Carroll!
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Not necessarily, we spunked 7 million on bebe, but then we'd never really seen him play and it turns out that he's not really the next big thing. We blew 30million on berbatov, yet he wasnt that prolific for spurs AND he was already quite old...being old obviously makes you less sellable and hence likely to lose a lot of money if things dont go quite rightly...
We spunked 17million on hargreaves KNOWING that he had problems that amounted to the worst tendonitis in the world ever, "It was described by one surgeon as the worst case of tendinitis that he had ever seen in a sportsman"
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...return-as-barry-fails-to-recover-1970594.html
I wouldnt moan when we sign someone of good quality who we have seen to be good in the EPL, or has a vintage and is available cheaply.
For instance, who would UTD have benefitted from more this season:
7 million Van der Vaart
7 million Bebe
Now if VdV had been 35 million, being what 26/27 and unproven in the EPL then yes, you can raise question mark as to the validity of that as a signing...
Im going to cry if we sign another winger, like ashley young for upwards of 20 million, knowing that we have no target man in the box...
We spunked 17million on hargreaves KNOWING that he had problems that amounted to the worst tendonitis in the world ever, "It was described by one surgeon as the worst case of tendinitis that he had ever seen in a sportsman"
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...return-as-barry-fails-to-recover-1970594.html
I wouldnt moan when we sign someone of good quality who we have seen to be good in the EPL, or has a vintage and is available cheaply.
For instance, who would UTD have benefitted from more this season:
7 million Van der Vaart
7 million Bebe
Now if VdV had been 35 million, being what 26/27 and unproven in the EPL then yes, you can raise question mark as to the validity of that as a signing...
Im going to cry if we sign another winger, like ashley young for upwards of 20 million, knowing that we have no target man in the box...
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You know he has 1 goal, 1 assist in around 1200 minutes on pitch, Evra has 1 goal 2 assists in 2550 minutes or so and Cole has 4 assists in 2600 minutes?
Baines has 2 goals, 11 assists, in 2700 minutes, I'm just saying Evra and Cole aren't particularly productive, and yes he shoots a lot from weird positions, but how many turn into corners, or get parried by the keeper into dangerous positions. Someone shooting from range is useful to any team because keepers mess up and create tap ins for others and defenders see him getting ready to shoot, rush out, create space.
he looks promising, theres nothing wrong with shooting, especially in a team looking to win a title, he'll improve over time and quite simply learn to play against the players in the league. First time you come up against a winger you might not know what he's likely to do, 2nd time you have more of an idea, 3rd time, life is easier.
AS for Utd, they should move back toa 4-4-2, 4-5-1 has been used largely by many clubs to account for worsening quality in central midfield, Utd use Fletcher, Carrick and maybe Scholes to fill the roles just Scholes and Keane used to manage themselves. Arsenal are the same, and its embarassing, Vieira on his own was better than Diaby, Denilson and Song put together, but Wenger feels the need to add someone in midfield to make us better there.
If Fergie/Utd buy the right midfielders, an extra man is simply not required.
The stats make him look better than how he is playing at the moment.
Baines, Evra and Cole to me have played far more dangerous balls this year than Kolarov has. Yes his shots may have resulted in corners etc but i am sure many would prefer some link up play with someone and the ball being put into the box for a goal scoring chance.
Is defending is very suspect also, regularly gets caught out and seems incredibly slow getting back unlike Richards. But a pre season and friendlies could massively improve all of this. A pre season i reckon will be fantastic for everyone in the squad, with no World Cup etc as well it is even better.
I think he can become good and agree with what your saying but i was just saying that many City fans haven't been impressed by him.
Fantastic but you really need to get over the fact that we missed out on VdV and tbh we would never have got him anyway, Real Madrid contacted Spurs because Spurs were trying to sign everyone at the time, why would they offer him to us who are obviously more of a European rival to RM? We didn't sign him get over it, you can't keep slagging people off in the team that are the same value because they are totally different players at different stages of their careers. VdV was pish for RM every time I watched him.
He took a punt on Bebe because RM were sniffing around him and he got a tip off from CQ.
You have also missed the glaringly obvious that Fergie doesn't sign tossers, Carroll was a disaster waiting to happen while he was at Newcastle so you can see why Fergie wouldn't want him. If he improves his attitude then fair play to him but he strikes me as thinking he is better than he is.
If Carroll becomes the best striker in the league and bangs in 30 goals then you can say it was a missed opportunity as will the rest of the Premier League managers!
I really don't want a lumbering striker that we throw the ball up to, we don't play like that so why even entertain the idea?
Who was the last big lumbering centre froward that United had and how many years ago was it?
Lucas has signed a new long term contract with us today. Fantastic player both on and off the pitch and nice to see he's finally getting the recognition he deserves
Brilliant
Yet you were creaming yourself when you signed him.
There were rumours well into the season that Bebe didnt cost anywhere near that figure (even though I accept this was the figure widely published at the time of the transfer)
I have no idea which is true - and its unlikely we will ever know
Would love to see a specialist left winger myself (although admittedly that leaves Valencia out in the cold a little.....unless Nani drops off performance wise) but it would be good to find a young Drogba or of that ilk (without the cheating when he arrives lol) ......well at least someone pretty tall .....not as tall (and lumbering lol) as Crouch who is better co-ordinated lol
(Berba being the tallest at just over 6ft with Rooney 10cm shorter and Chicharito even shorter. The only real height we have otherwise is Vidic /Smalling......(excl gk's lol)
I know its been out of necessity more than anything (with Valencia being out for 6 months or so) but too high a proportion of Utds attacks rely on the right wing and its pretty predictable
edit - any tall (preferably very) creative / AMs out there - that would solve a lot of problems lol
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