** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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I don't rate Downing but can understand us wanting someone to put in crosses for Carroll but Adams? Bar a few assists and goals from set pieces he's absolutely awful and I'll be livid if he comes in to replace the vastly superior Meireles who we're apparently offering to Inter and Juventus.
 
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Probably not but at least it would've been a step up from the Championship and League One quality players he was looking at :o
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You seem to forget the changeover of the owners since. He looked at players that he was allowed to with his budget. Dalglish would have done no better with quality of transfers if he was afforded the same budget IMO.
 
24mill for Downing and Adam isn't too bad tbh, I'm not really a fan of Downing at all and it remains to be seen if Adam is a one-season wonder but you can break it down 14/10 or 12/12 respectively and it doesn't look a crazy amount of money for the pair.

For a start that's some cracking set-piece delivery there which would suit Carroll you'd think.
 
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The Adam bid is supposedly 9 mill + 3 mill if we finish top 4, according to the local Blackpool paper.

Meaning the downing deal is between 12 - 15 mill depending on if they count the 3mill add on on the Adam deal or not in the total 24 mill price.

Not so bad really when you split it down.

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Also remember, as i have said on multiple occasions, dont expect these two to be automatic starters every game, we've proven even under Woy that our first 11 can compete with any team in the league, its depth which has hindered us for too long now, and something the management are slowly sorting out.

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I don't rate Downing but can understand us wanting someone to put in crosses for Carroll but Adams? Bar a few assists and goals from set pieces he's absolutely awful and I'll be livid if he comes in to replace the vastly superior Meireles who we're apparently offering to Inter and Juventus.
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I like Meireles (liked?) but i cant see him being automatic first choice anywhere next season, even without Adam. And in a game where the team's parking the bus i would rather Adam over Meireles any day.

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Tony Evans just messaged me to say its 8m for adam, 16 for downing. So about right with my previous conclusion :p

Also must learn to read back a bit, didnt see Dan already posted it :(
 
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Tony Evans is usually spot on. However.........£24M?!

£24m..Adam and Downing........really?!

£15+m Henderson..........really?

£35m Carroll......really?

Is this how you spend money?
 
Adam as a squad member for £8m is a good deal imo - decent at dead ball situations, and will relish being at a big club pushing for CL positions this season coming

Also depending on who's around him he can take pressure off Gerrard playing the "minor" games - hopefully meaning less wear & tear injuries which seemed to happen a lot last season

Admittedly I cant comment in comparision to Merieles (sp?) if it means the latter being shipped out and Adam coming in, CA could also be good in guiding any hot prospect kids that are knocking on the door

edit - admittedly its not a done deal yet but IF Gibson goes for £5m to Sunderland, comparing that to Adam for £8m - I would take Adam every single time and twice on Sundays!!! Surely Adam is a steal in comparison!

Downing for £16m, that does seem rich admittedly but I seem to recall him costing a lot (last summer? or was it two years ago) from where ever he came from so that probably doesnt help matters.
 
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few years left on the contract + being voted by players and supporters as player of the season last season + runner up (i think) year before helps push the price up a bit.
 
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few years left on the contract + being voted by players and supporters as player of the season last season + runner up (i think) year before helps push the price up a bit.
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Plus signed for 12 million in '09 so that's going to be a starting point for adding on to.

24m for the pair isn't stellar bargain hunting by any means but it's not being rinsed either.

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Maybe this is the new top 5 strategy, buy the best players from the top 6-8 competitors to strengthen the grip on the European places :p
 
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Downing for 16m is a little steep for my liking, but I'm actually quite content with 8m for Adam. Given the prices that Henderson , Jones et al have gone for so far this summer , I actually think 8m for Adam will turn out to be a decent bit of business.
 
If you're the sole creative talent in your side and take most of your teams free kicks and penalties you're always going to score more goals and get more assists than your team mates. Adams will never take penalties ahead of Gerrard or Kuyt and he'll take a limited number of free kicks compared to last year so I can't see what he'll ever offer us, he simply isn't good enough from open play.
 
Moses said:
£17m Anderson... really?!

£7m Bebé... really?!

£18m Carrick... really?!

£18-20m Jones... really?!

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Also, the Carroll fee has to be put in the Torres context, as previously explained by numerous Liverpool fans... so I'm not going to re-explain the fees being dependent on one another.
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Carrick - 4 titles, 1 champions league, 2 Carling Cups, 1 Club world cup
Anderson - 3 titles, 1 champions league, 1 Carling Cup, 1 Club world cup
 
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