** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Mark1989 said:
Whilst yeah it might make Barca offer more i HIGHLY doubt Cesc would go Madrid and to be quite honest Madrid don't need him.
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Then you didn't watch them at all last year, the one thing they lacked completely was a midfield playmaker, Kaka tried but has been frankly woeful for two seasons, most of the few goals he has were penalties other guys won and handed to him to at least get him a few goals.

In all their biggest games, retaining posession and fantastic distribution from the middle was the biggest thing they lacked.

Would he go to Real, why not, other people have gone Barca to Real and vice versa, just going to Real won't stop him ever playing for Barca and next season Real have a bigger chance at the league and champs league than Arsenal do.

Given the choice between 3 years at Arsenal then going to Barca, or 3 years at Real then going to Barca, Real is easily the obvious choice, easily.

Jesus I don't even know how many goals Ronaldo would have got with Cesc behind him rather than really no solid player in that role.
 
Say for arguments sake Csec did go to Real....

---------------Casillas---------------
Ramos---Pepe---Carvalho---Marcelo
-----------Csec---Alonso------------
----------------Ozil------------------
Ronaldo----------------------Di Maria
--------------Higuain----------------

:eek: now that would be mightily close to matching Barca

But yeah Csec wouldn't go there
 
Real have just signed Nuri Sahin who is a quality deep lying playmaker (FM terms :o) so i highly doubt they will buy Fabregas also. Especially considering how well Ozil played well last year.
 
You'd have to question why Real Madrid have bid, if there is really no chance of Fabregas going there. Must a little bit of something in it, unless Arsenal and RM are in cahoots somehow.

Probably ollocks.
 
Shamikebab said:
...what about Xabi Alonso?

And as for the last sentence....good god, your posts get more and more ridiculous.
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I didn't say without a solid "midfield" but without a solid proven Xavi type central midfielder to add 20 assists a season to the team. Alsono hasn't for club and country with up to 68 appearances had more than 8 assists before.

He also played as their deepest defensive midfielder all season, Cesc hasn't had less than 16 assists in 5 years, he's an attacking central midfielder. So you don't think the best assist maker and one of the best attacking central midfielders in the world would improve Real? You think Alonso is their best playmaker and having one of the worlds best playmakers wouldn't help Alonso score more, ok.

Pigeon_Killer said:
Ozil's been a revelation for Real this year but guess who doesn't rate him ;)
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I do wonder who you mean as I've never once said Ozil hasn't had a good season, I've ONLY said that Ozil was massively over rated by most in the world cup, not for his old club where I've said I rarely saw him, nor for Madrid where he's been mostly good.

Of course, despite the hype around the teams in the UK that thought they'd get him, Ozil only went for 18mil, the rest of the world saw potential but not the finished product, as I did, and he was priced as such. Likewise Ozil was amongst their worst players in all their big games of the season, IIRC he was SO bad in the first Barca game he didn't start the next, one or two Barca games. Infact he had a habit of dissappearing in quite a lot of the bigger games, so what, he's young and in a new team, don't see anything wrong with that.

BaZ87 said:
Diarra's amazing though and totally wasted at Real.
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Haven't said that either, Jose came in, spent 23mil iirc on Khedira, Diarra might have had an injury early season aswell, can't recall, since then he's forced his way into the team and played more than Khedira I believe, he's basically first team there, and was one of their most effective players against Barca in all the games, how is that wasted, I think he's quality, he's first team, and they like him over there?
 
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Burned_Alive said:
Over £10-15m for a multi-year target? Peanuts really. Barca have far more available then they're letting on.
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They are circa 360million Euro's in debt officially at the moment, they SHOULD get a silly payment at some stage from the TV rights that are disputed, but they might not, they are currently planning, and doing very well, to reduce the debt by seemingly around 100mil euro's in the past season.

They don't have that much but I expect them to both sell a few players, and want to replace those players...... they have this silly Real Madrid style need to impress the fans with a big signing each year, even if they have by far the best team and don't need to.
 
Tom84 said:
DM you didn't answer my earlier question, Nasri or Modric who's better?
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I didn't see your earlier question, honestly I don't know, I've watched Modric a lot and think he's being massively over rated this season, as has Nasri. Frankly if you take 2-3 seasons into account Modric has been the better player, but both are people you really don't need in a team.

Modric's is nice but essentially for an attacking player he's not attacking enough, he's staying too deep, he looks like a great withdrawn midfielder because he can pass and has far better vision than your average midfield battler, but he's also not been anywhere near as effective as other central midfielders offensively.

He looks crap compared to Cesc in that role, and he looks world class compared to Palacios.

Over 3 seasons, Modric is better, neither are top class players.

With both players they fall into that bracket of, nice to have but why bother. When Nasri was scoring goals he was playing as a withdrawn/second striker(even though being played on the wing). His lack of wing play cost us in many games, and 10 goals for a second striker who played more than most in the team is actually poor. If he had been great all season, on the wing AND got 10 goals, great, but the only thing he offered was the 10 goals and lots of annonymous appearances.

Both Arsenal and Spurs can replace those players with players better for the role, and team, and improve, while making a profit. Think about where Nasri started, winger, but not quite fast enough, central midfield, but doesn't effect the team enough, played defensive midfield a bit, played more as a withdrawn central striker in several games and looked at his best a couple seasons ago for a run of games. Modric the same, started at wing, wasn't quite right, attacking central mid, not quite right, deeper withdrawn central midfield, not quite right.
 
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Tom84 said:
Say for arguments sake Csec did go to Real....

---------------Casillas---------------
Ramos---Pepe---Carvalho---Marcelo
-----------Csec---Alonso------------
----------------Ozil------------------
Ronaldo----------------------Di Maria
--------------Higuain----------------

:eek: now that would be mightily close to matching Barca

But yeah Csec wouldn't go there
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fabregas plays best at CAM, alonso at CM. diarra is their natural CDM and one of the best out there.

--------------- Casillas -----------------

Ramos -- Albiol -- Carvahlo -- Arbeloa/Marcelo

----- Pepe ------ Diarra -------

---------- Alonso/Fabregas ---------------

Ronaldo ---------- Di Maria / Ozil

--------- Higuain / Adey ---------
 
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