Summer Transfer Window 23/24

fez said:
Location and lifestyle 100% plays a part in it. These players WAGs have some say in what they do. It’s not going to stop a player going from a smaller club to a much bigger club usually. It’s not going to stop a player adding 50% to their salary but all things being roughly equal it probably makes a not insubstantial difference.
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It will play a part, but those other things usually aren’t equal.

I think Real Madrid and Barcelona are the only clubs with any real appeal over a Premier League alternative - and it’s more their size, prestige and history rather than location.
 
Robbo said:
I think location is a bit of a myth - players are interested in other things.
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Absolutely.

Newcastle is now a wonderful vibrant city when earning 6 figures p/w. Under Ashley it was dull and boring, too far north.

Players follow the money. We’d all do the same.

There’s a lot of players who actually travel a few hours every day to training so don’t think location in the grand scheme of things for a country this size makes that big a difference.

Manchester for example is way under valued in the media just because it’s not London. Yet, all the best players* in the league live within the greater Manchester/Liverpool area.

*a select few others don’t, rice/Kane etc that later who’d absolutely love to live in Manchester.
 
fez said:
So WHU are interested in the majestic Harry Maguire. £40m guys? We know you've got it.
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I actually think that something in that region would go down as a good deal for all parties. His style of play fits West Ham and he'd replace the dressing room presence left by Rice. I think he'd do a good job there. He'd also probably regain some confidence in a more compact system. And United would recoup a reasonable amount given where things have ended up
 
Maguire is 30 now. I'd be surprised if the fee is anywhere over 15-20m for a defender who's been a calamity for his club for the past 2+ years.

Only thing that's saving him is his England status.

If it was 15-20 I'd say that would be fair and a good deal all round, for player and both clubs.
 
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JamesH85 said:
Maguire is 30 now. I'd be surprised if the fee is anywhere over 15-20m for a defender who's been a calamity for his club for the past 2+ years.

Only thing that's saving him is his England status.

If it was 15-20 I'd say that would be fair and a good deal all round, for player and both clubs.
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Agreed, no way are westham (or anyone else) throwing 40 million at a 30 year old Harry Maguire, given his performances over the past 4 years
 
Yeah, we won't get £40m for him but £25m is doable. Hes a good player in the right team and I doubt his "pace" is going to leave him for another 3-4 years.

The biggest issue is his salary. I think its was £180,000 last season but its £220,000 ish this season due to CL.
 
I don’t get why WHU would spend that money on him. Surely with scouting networks there are better players available for the same money.

United are awful at selling their assets though, if they can get £20-25m for him that seems awfully high to me for the player in question.

Surely £10m and part pay his wages? Would be the way to get him out the door.
 
Reuben klang said:
I don’t get why WHU would spend that money on him. Surely with scouting networks there are better players available for the same money.
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Because hes a good defender who has proved that in the Premier League. WHU won't attract the top talents so they would have to get lucky to get a better player for less money. He speaks English (I think) and is an England international.

People like to make out like Maguire is an awful player but thats simply not true. Hes just limited in the same way that almost every other player is. Most players have big issues in the wrong setup and Maguire is no different.
 
fez said:
Yeah, we won't get £40m for him but £25m is doable. Hes a good player in the right team and I doubt his "pace" is going to leave him for another 3-4 years.

The biggest issue is his salary. I think its was £180,000 last season but its £220,000 ish this season due to CL.
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Age, wage and the fact that Utd are desperate to get rid of him. Unless there's a number of clubs chasing him then the buying club has all the leverage in any negotiation and that's why the reports are already saying that West Ham want him on loan.
 
CliffyG said:
Partey out, Lavia in apparently. Honestly don't recall seeing Lavia play before, is he any good?
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It seems everybody thinks so. Chelsea were reported to have tried to sign him a few weeks after he joined Southampton last summer and he's been linked with us, Chelsea and you all this summer, although nobody has as yet been willing to pay the £50m odd Southampton are said to be asking.
 
I don't see Maguire's wages being too sticky a problem.. he's in a position that if he goes to a Europa league or mid table club he has a good chance of retaining his England position with Southgate.

I don't think he's going to argue too much over a few bob at this point and he can bank on maybe a last contract in Saudi in a couple of years time after he's done one more international tournament.
 
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shipinabottle said:
I don't see Maguire's wages being too sticky a problem.. he's in a position that if he goes to a Europa league or mid table club he has a good chance of retaining his England position with Southgate.

I don't think he's going to argue too much over a few bob at this point and he can bank on maybe a last contract in Saudi in a couple of years time after he's done one more international tournament.
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Would you be happy halving your wages? It wouldn’t be just a few bob…
 
BaZ87 said:
Age, wage and the fact that Utd are desperate to get rid of him. Unless there's a number of clubs chasing him then the buying club has all the leverage in any negotiation and that's why the reports are already saying that West Ham want him on loan.
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Thats only true if they don't really want him. You can say that club X holds all the cards but United have a history of not selling players and just leaving them sitting there so Maguire would be no different. WHU aren't going to walk away because they couldn't take advantage of the situation.

If the deal represents value for money for the buying team and he will be worth the cost then thats all that matters to them.
 
fez said:
Thats only true if they don't really want him. You can say that club X holds all the cards but United have a history of not selling players and just leaving them sitting there so Maguire would be no different. WHU aren't going to walk away because they couldn't take advantage of the situation.

If the deal represents value for money for the buying team and he will be worth the cost then thats all that matters to them.
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I think it's clear they don't want him but that doesn't mean they'll accept any offer from West Ham or whoever. As you say, Utd have a history of not letting players go (and similarly Liverpool with the likes of Ox and Keita) and it's because the offers that come in for them are so low that it doesn't make sense to let them go.

You say West Ham won't walk away but they're not going to pay over and above what they think is reasonable and will test Utd's resolve as much as they can with silly offers, knowing they hold the cards. You've got a 30 year old that's been garbage for the past couple of seasons, who the manager clearly doesn't want and is earning probably double the highest earners at West Ham (or similar) - you're going to struggle to get any sort of reasonable fee for him. Whether you do or whether he ends up staying will depend on just how desperate you are to sell and how desperate any buying club is to sign him.
 
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