Supplements the debate/discussion thread

theonejat said:
Tin of tuna or 1x chicken breast, salad & 1 piece of fruit is maximum £2.50. I know which I'd prefer :)
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Cost
Iceland sell 4 cans of tuna for £3; 75p each.
fruit - 50p.
tuna can + fruit = £1.25. (this offers the best value for money)

In terms of cost/nutrition, tuna sandwich wins hands down.
Chicken is more expensive.
And protein bar is even more expensive (though might taste great).

I keep mentioning cost, because for most people, cost is VERY important.

Protein Bars
For the record, I have eaten protein bars, when bulking, so I'm not totally against them. Protein shakes work out cheaper, though.
Protein bars usually taste nice and are an easy way to increase calories.
I can't imagine ever eating one when reducing weight, though - as these things are usually very dense in calories and will not fill your belly, so you will get hungry fairly quickly after having a protein bar.

Whey Protein Isolate
Getting back to the subject of supplements, I'm now having unflavoured whey isolate, and this stuff tastes nasty. I got this for a cheaper price than normal whey, but I cannot understand why anybody would pay extra for whey isolate vs concentrate. Unflavoured whey concentrate tends to be a lot more milky/natural in taste. Whey Isolate has a more acidic taste and its consistency is not as creamy.
 
I really don't get why you are making the same point we seem to be agreeing on generally?

You favor the sandwich, I favor tuna with salad and fruit. I am not trying to speak for everyone I'm speaking for myself. Is a tuna sandwich filling? For a few pennies more you could have a FULL tin of tuna, as much salad as you require and a piece of fruit. Heck of a lot more filling in the ol' stomach :D

Also depends on what situation you are in when eating. Obviously a sandwich is easier on the go.
 
I have a pretty bad eating disorder, and dont like many foods sandwiches, vegetables, fruits etc. A Protein bar for me (quest specifically) works wonders for me because it helps me hit my fibre, low on carbs and calories (whilst im cutting) high in protein, its easy to fit in to my day and it tastes GAF. Not disputing that foods your naming are better and more cost effective, but a protein bar helps me hit my macros.
 
Just so glad I'm not poor :p

Joking aside, when I was struggling to make ends meet I sacrificed other things to ensure I could buy the best quality foods I could - but things like protein shakes did come into their own to get extra nutrition in me.
 
Freefaller said:
Just so glad I'm not poor :p

Joking aside, when I was struggling to make ends meet I sacrificed other things to ensure I could buy the best quality foods I could - but things like protein shakes did come into their own to get extra nutrition in me.
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As a student I sacrifice pretty much everything before food or supplements. Last time I went on a night out drinking was new years but I still eat chicken everyday.
 
I was lucky when I was a student that my door work was pretty well paid but even then food came before beer unlike one of my housemates who survived on smart price cheese, pasta, 8p noodles and whatever he could scrounge but still went out 4 nights a week.
The best bit is we graduated a couple of years ago and that's still his diet! Apart from the 8p noodles are now 24p or something, there was upraw!
 
Tom, you have to understand that food/nutrition is not a top priority for the vast majority of people.
Most people are happy to eat complete junk (eg. noodles and smart price cheese).

A few years ago I went abroad and I couldnt take your own food me on planes, so I was at the mercy of the food available on planes and airports. 1 word - junk. I wouldnt even feed that stuff to an animal.
However, there queues of people who were happy to eat this junk food. That taught me that most people just dont care.

I've also noticed on programs like Big Brother, chocolate seems to be very high on the list when shopping lists are being made. In fact, some people eat chocolate based food, as a staple. When I lived with my sisters, most of their calories came from chocolates, biscuits and chocolate biscuits.

In summary:
For the vast majority:
Price is King.
Taste is very important.
Nutrition is of the lowest priority.
 
Been gaining weight and muscle fast over the past year was around 9st now currently 14st 7. Gym every 3 days on 2 days off and its working well doing 2 muscle groups per session around 1hr in total.

Getting to the point now I would like to loose my bodyfat and gut, I do eat healthy and regular meals but need some support via supplements to aid fat loss.

My GF has around 6 tins of Juice plus and its worked for her so would try it, what do you guys reckon?
 
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I am 28 and lost 5 st in 2 years, at 26. Used to gym for 5-6 years prior and took all sorts. Fell a bit ill and lost it all and was very skinny at 9st. Took a solid year to get where I am now, maybe muscle memory? But am now a decent size, just have some bodyfat I am not happy with and need to loose pronto.


will post my meals later need to work it all out ha!!
 
pokerking said:
Been gaining weight and muscle fast over the past year was around 9st now currently 14st 7. Gym every 3 days on 2 days off and its working well doing 2 muscle groups per session around 1hr in total.

Getting to the point now I would like to loose my bodyfat and gut, I do eat healthy and regular meals but need some support via supplements to aid fat loss.

My GF has around 6 tins of Juice plus and its worked for her so would try it, what do you guys reckon?
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My thoughts on juice plus would end in me being banned.
Eat less move more, you do not need supplements. Considering you've put on 6 stone in a year you're either on a lot of gear or for the most part you've just gotten fat and you must also be eating way over maintenance so just start by cutting your food in take down.
 
tom_e said:
My thoughts on juice plus would end in me being banned.
Eat less move more, you do not need supplements. Considering you've put on 6 stone in a year you're either on a lot of gear or for the most part you've just gotten fat and you must also be eating way over maintenance so just start by cutting your food in take down.
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Dont take anything. No shakes or suppliments, just a lot of fish pasta and meat. The only fat is around my gut. Dont eat any sweets chocolates of junk food. Maybe the odd fizzy drink but IMO I eat very good.
 
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