*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

Crossfit has so so many fails.

I still agree with the basic concept mind you, the ability to be able to do a fast 5k run, a fast 2k row, Dl 200kg, be able to climb a rope etc...
It's just that it's so poorly executed by so many of their official franchises that you can't not think 'WTF are you doing'!

kd

You can train to be a jack of all trades, and do all that stuff (and therefore less likely to be awesome at one), it's just you don't have to call it CrossFit, start calling your gym a 'box' and buy the clothing etc. That vid on the facebook page (I also posted it in another thread) of that 40+ year old Oly lifter doing a CrossFit routine and making it look easy with great form - that dude isn't affiliated w/CF, he just has a varied and obviously effective training program. CF doesn't own barbell complexes or mixing up training styles!
 
Crossfit just confuses me a bit tho i mean, the lift ceilings are low, are they saying a guy with a 300kg dead a 250 squat and a 180 bench cant run 5k in a decent time? id beg to differ.

Exactly, infact take yourself as an example.

Your a big guy, you can lift very damn heavy and I bet you can run a very decent 5km time too! (well I assume so as most squash players are pretty damn fit)

You don't need to do crossfit to be fit in all aspects you just have to work your ass off and eat right.

It's a very big cult following and people like to be part of something that everyone things awesome. I **** it off to friends etc and get puzzled looks, and told its awesome. "don't knock it till you try it" - "it's nails mate" - "my mate does it, he's the fittest guy I know"

Etc. &&&& off.
 
5k is easy for anyone who isn't a lard ass though :)

Thats my point, crossfit implies that to have big lifts you gotta be a fat mess. Arnie at his peak was around 225lbs about the same weight as a typical 'big built' 6'2" man i dont see his weight holding him back from a little jog and hed outlift any crossfitter. I do however conceed that, in almost the words of uncle ben, "with big legs, comes great oxygen demand." and i know first hand that moving fast with legs 3 times the size of avearge joes sucks ass, because when 20stone flab boxes run me all over the squash court they find it quite hilarious as i lay on the ground panting! That said squash is sprint based and heavily anaerobic, i fair quite well in aerobic exercise like light running.
 
You can train to be a jack of all trades, and do all that stuff (and therefore less likely to be awesome at one), it's just you don't have to call it CrossFit, start calling your gym a 'box' and buy the clothing etc. That vid on the facebook page (I also posted it in another thread) of that 40+ year old Oly lifter doing a CrossFit routine and making it look easy with great form - that dude isn't affiliated w/CF, he just has a varied and obviously effective training program. CF doesn't own barbell complexes or mixing up training styles!

Well, quite, yeah. But I think that's really the concept, is create a jack of all trades. It's just with 'CrossFit' someone has made it into a business. It's not even a well executed 'sport' if you can call it that, but it does have a huge variety of stuff in it.

I think, again, it's all about enforcing that idea of jack of all trades (although you don't need that), but the best Crossfit athletes often come from other fields, and are just well rounded individuals. Hell, I'd bet a couple of the NFL guys would be pretty good at Crossfit. As an example though, Dan Bailey (2nd CrossFit Games 2012 I think) DL's about 240, and will sprint the 400m in 0:47 (supposedly). Johnson's record is 43:18 and some people competing in the Olympics didn't have that time.

It's a great concept, just poorly executed.

kd
 
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I said all that in the post before the one you quoted as well as others. Yes, all the poster children for Crossfit are people who were drawn in by the $ from other areas - hell, even MobilityWOD guy is getting cosy with them because it's probably very lucrative for him, I'd probably do it too for the $ lol.

It wouldn't be so annoying if they didn't bleat so loudly about how great they are - 'we're the fittest on Earth yada yada' - yes, that's why your injury rate is so high!

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"Crossfit - where technique-dependent lifts are taught to technique-deficient athletes and then performed for high reps so that what little technique there is, fails."
 
Event training today, pretty uneventful as I only had a few hours sleep and 39 mins before training I blew my nose and it exploded with blood. Excellent. Bit light headed for the session which made it harder than it should have been.

Circus DB for max
Axle
Stones

Axle was horrible as each clean my head just went. So gave up
Stones were a joke, might as well have not taped and tackied up tbh.

Circus DB, only good thing about the session:
Right hand: 63kg - 2 reps. 5kg PB and a double rep at it
Left hand: 53kg - 2 reps. Equal PB but a double :)

Should have started with left hand and might have got a proper PB, but then might not have PB'd the right hand.
The 63kg was pretty easy and could have repped more.
68kg clean was horrific and the 'bell scraped the back of my head so I gave up at that point.
 
Ive been doing db shrugs like this way in the video below, and making sure i get that squeeze at the top before coming down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGWC04nYtI
Is this the correct way to do db shrugs as thats how ive been doing them. But a bodybuilder showed me a different way. Where the arms come out as you lift the dbs up so there about a ft away from your sides and you get a bigger squeeze.
 
Heh, pretty much covered above!

In short, do shrugs if you want, just make sure you don't bring your shoulders forward and windmill them.
 
Keep forgetting you guys dont like shrugs:p But am i right?
Whats a better alternative to shrugs while working the same muscle group, cause i do like the squeeze/pump i get from it, i'd hate to miss that feeling:D
 
Keep forgetting you guys dont like shrugs:p But am i right?
Whats a better alternative to shrugs while working the same muscle group, cause i do like the squeeze/pump i get from it, i'd hate to miss that feeling:D

Makes no odds if you want to shrug, but the shrug is Bodybuilder specific as a finisher for vertical trap mass. You will get great traps from deadlift and carries. Shrugging is largely done incorrectly, has little function in lifting, is used as a penis enlarger for those who cant actually move anything heavy, and poses reasonable risks to injury.

Why bother?
 
As much as Crossfit does annoy me (though no experience IRL so I'm hesitant to completely ignore it) I am well jelly of their gyms. Giant warehouses with 10's of barbells and bumper plates galore. There's actually a Crossfit place opened up literally around the corner from my Gym and I almost wanna go in there but just for a normal workout.
 
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