*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

At hospital atm, was in over night have to stay here for 24 hours.
Got drip feed and had lots of blood taken this morning but was close call last night.

Will spill the beans later, not proud of myself.

Doesn't sound good mate, hope they've fixed you up and you don't do whatever it was again! :)
 
Hope you'll make a full recovering Muzza :)

Okay FF, so BCAAs during a long session; helpful or not making a difference?

Amino acids are fast acting, and absorbed better than whey anyway. If you're doing silly long sessions, BCAAs may help, but remember they're highly insulinogenic (create a big insulin response). I still think a banana is more effective during a workout, however, BCAAs won't be a waste of time really either.

BCAAs contain things like leucine which helps initiate protein synthesis - which frankly, won't happen during a workout... however, the caveat I will say, is that loading up on BCAAs during a workout may not enhance your workout, but potentially could help reduce DOMS and improve protein synthesis post workout - but as I said, you've got a good 24hrs post workout to eat, but may also serve as way of converting energy too - but my biology is a little rusty.

You won't be doing any harm taking them during the workout or taking a step backwards really - certainly if you're training at such a high intensity. :)
 
Amino acids are fast acting, and absorbed better than whey anyway. If you're doing silly long sessions, BCAAs may help, but remember they're highly insulinogenic (create a big insulin response). I still think a banana is more effective during a workout, however, BCAAs won't be a waste of time really either.

BCAAs contain things like leucine which helps initiate protein synthesis - which frankly, won't happen during a workout... however, the caveat I will say, is that loading up on BCAAs during a workout may not enhance your workout, but potentially could help reduce DOMS and improve protein synthesis post workout - but as I said, you've got a good 24hrs post workout to eat, but may also serve as way of converting energy too - but my biology is a little rusty.

You won't be doing any harm taking them during the workout or taking a step backwards really - certainly if you're training at such a high intensity. :)

BCAA's are beneficial for either fasted workouts, where you won't be eating for 3 hours ish afterwards, or long intense sessions.

When I train at the weekend fasted I don't bother, because I know within 30 minutes of finishing I'll be wolfing down a massive meal.
During the week (8am fasted training, first meal 1230) I take 15g pre 15g post workout, it helps a lot with DOMs and gives you a tiny energy boost aswell actually.
 
Wondering whether or not having some BCAA's will be of any benefit if I decide to switch to morning training...Shouldn't be too much of a problem though as I can generally eat at my desk.
 
Wondering whether or not having some BCAA's will be of any benefit if I decide to switch to morning training...Shouldn't be too much of a problem though as I can generally eat at my desk.

if your having a PWO shake then no point. Just throw in some Leucine and creatine to that and your well away.
 
If one will squat, one will suffer doms.

Squats last night, 5x5, increasing weight each set, fast. Hit depth, smash it up go again. No stopping..

Warm ups then
60x10
60x10

Faster means dropping some weight, so start with.... nice and easy...
110x5 - fast. like it. easy
130x5 - fast, like it, easy
150x5 - fast, like it, not so easy
add belt
160x5 - fast, no like it, struggling to breathe after, red faced, find a chair
170x5 - first 3 were pretty fast tbh, then i should have given up as the next 2 were grinders rather than speedy lol

death set
120 on the bar, rep till you think you might fail, stop and 20kg gets taken off. Keep going down to 60kg. If you fail you stop, you lose out..:

120kgx7, 20kg off
100x6, 20kg off
80x5, 20kg off
60x3 - dieing. Didn't want to try a 4th

Nice fast night, good depth and speed. Will start on 120kg next time and go up to 180.
 
BCAA's are beneficial for either fasted workouts, where you won't be eating for 3 hours ish afterwards, or long intense sessions.

When I train at the weekend fasted I don't bother, because I know within 30 minutes of finishing I'll be wolfing down a massive meal.
During the week (8am fasted training, first meal 1230) I take 15g pre 15g post workout, it helps a lot with DOMs and gives you a tiny energy boost aswell actually.

My point is, it's a myth about having to eat IMMEDIATELY after a workout.

If you take BCAAs you're effectively not training fasted as you create an insulin spike. :) Not that I care much for fasted training anyway.

They're not going to do any harm on a long session - but aren't REALLY necessary - certainly if you're eating well pre and post workout.
 
My point is, it's a myth about having to eat IMMEDIATELY after a workout.

If you take BCAAs you're effectively not training fasted as you create an insulin spike. :) Not that I care much for fasted training anyway.

They're not going to do any harm on a long session - but aren't REALLY necessary - certainly if you're eating well pre and post workout.

Yep.
 
Ultimately, taking BCAAs won't do you any harm. Though bear in mind that most protein supplements have BCAAs as part of their make up (if they're decent quality). It'll mainly help with recovery rather than anything else.

Any amino acid supplementation is only really worthwhile if you're absolutely sure that your levels of those particular AAs have been utilised or depleted to the point where it becomes the limiting factor in your performance/training/and or recovery.

The chances are or at least I'd hope, that you're getting lots if not more than enough BCAAs from any protein supplementation and, my old favourite, food! :D

So for example, training for something like a triathlon, ironman or something stupid (but amazing) like a marathon and are you're say 1/2 through a 6hr work out or session (for example)..... Then, I'd suggest that they become necessary as your body will start to become catabolic - but even then it'll minimise the effect - and getting energy from a banana, or glucose based product will likely give you the energy you need - though combining the 2 would be even better in that particular instance.

Other than that, you're not really doing much other than spending money. Don't get me wrong, you won't lose out, but you're not going to suddenly gain much.

As I said, it's usually better to wait a while before consuming anything post workout anyway as your protein uptake will be lower immediately post workout. BCAAs are great though for cutting - I will accept and admit that - and the facts stand for themselves, that's the way they work - provide supplementation at a low calorie expenditure.
 
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