Poll: ***The all new gymrats thread***

[BennyC]

Is it not wise to have carbs too late after lunch then? I have a habit of eating quite late sometimes, then I can't usually sleep, I wonder if that is the problem?

Diet looks very good, constant supply throughout the day! Four main meals, would that be enough for me too? Being on a student budget, that one less meal will make a lot of difference.

The other big obstacle I need to overcome is going to bed late. I need to try to get into the habit of going to sleep by 11 at the latest and waking up at 7:30.

From what I understand carbs are most easily stored as fat and are where muscles will get most energy from. Loading up with energy before bed and then lying still for 8+ hours doesn't seem too wise!

I tend to just sort of graze continually throughout the day with some grazing sessions being larger than others! You don't really want to go more than 3 hours without eating and each meal should have around 40grams of protein from what I read around.

Get your butt into bed sooner. Sleep is a big factor in growth. The body grows, rests and repairs during sleep so if you're not allowing it to do this for long enough your shooting yourself in the foot!

We should do a deadlift rep challenge like they did over on UK-Muscle
They were using 200kg and seeing who could hit the most reps (no pause at bottom, only at top of rep, no straps or gloves - only chalk iirc), but 200kg might be a bit OTT here so maybe we could do it with say 150kg or something?

Take it the knee is better then

Sounds like a bit of fun. Have to be filmed though or we'd have to trust in people

Could also do some lower weights for the less experienced lifters or people who haven't progressed as well as others on this lift. Fun for all.

 

[^TANK^]

Go on..............

Nice one on the daily burn link, will get signed up. EDIT: it says I need to eat 3700kcal to put on a stone (to 15st) which can be done in 13weeks. Lol I will be a fatty bloater if that happens, especially with work/London socialising coming before weights sessions at home on occassions.

I have benched PB's without a spotter and had to rest the bar on my chest and then tip the lot to one side to get out. I have taken out a mirror above me in a gym with a lat bar when I didn't twig the handles spun round. I dropped a 25kg plate on my foot which ****ing hurt but luckily was rubber coated so just bruising, and all this was done in front of people.

 

[BennyC]

I dropped a 25kg plate on my foot

I dropped a cast iron 25KG plate less than 1cm away from my toes, in just socks

 

[^TANK^]

We should do a deadlift rep challenge like they did over on UK-Muscle
They were using 200kg and seeing who could hit the most reps (no pause at bottom, only at top of rep, no straps or gloves - only chalk iirc), but 200kg might be a bit OTT here so maybe we could do it with say 150kg or something?

Me and Freefaller tried to get this going but didn't take off lol. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17956197

 

[^TANK^]

I dropped a cast iron 25KG plate less than 1cm away from my toes, in just socks

That beats me lol, think about this I have 50kg plates that get a fair amount of use so that could get interesting if I drop that bad boy on a piggy or two.

 

[BennyC]

That beats me lol, think about this I have 50kg plates that get a fair amount of use so that could get interesting if I drop that bad boy on a piggy or two.

Forget the piggy or two, say goodbye to the whole bunch!

 

[^TANK^]

Forget the piggy or two, say goodbye to the whole bunch!

I think it would be a safe bet that I would be going to hospital!

 

[PAz]

Take it the knee is better then

Sounds like a bit of fun. Have to be filmed though or we'd have to trust in people

Could also do some lower weights for the less experienced lifters or people who haven't progressed as well as others on this lift. Fun for all.

Well we will see tonight

I did some light ones last week after her recommendation - just sets of 10 reps with 100kg and it was fine.

Will go a little heavier tonight but still take it easy for a few weeks. Its definitely getting there though

Still no squats though

 

[Volcs]

We should do a deadlift rep challenge like they did over on UK-Muscle
They were using 200kg and seeing who could hit the most reps (no pause at bottom, only at top of rep, no straps or gloves - only chalk iirc), but 200kg might be a bit OTT here so maybe we could do it with say 150kg or something?

I'd open the betting with 1.

 

[^TANK^]

I'd open the betting with 1.

If I was fired up chewing my own lip off 10 maybe, otherwise maybe 5.

 

[Freefaller]

We should do a deadlift rep challenge like they did over on UK-Muscle
They were using 200kg and seeing who could hit the most reps (no pause at bottom, only at top of rep, no straps or gloves - only chalk iirc), but 200kg might be a bit OTT here so maybe we could do it with say 150kg or something?

Me and Freefaller tried to get this going but didn't take off lol. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17956197

Up for it for sure, but I don't like doing deadlifts like that, I like to hit the ground and lift again properly. Doing them "no pause"is more like a SLDL movement for most people as they don't bend their legs deep enough. However I'm still keen. I think we'd have to make it around 150kg as not many people can DL 200kg here, and those that can I doubt can do it for more than a couple of reps?

 

[^TANK^]

I'm dead chuffed I have attempted to get three friends into weights with me as I hate training alone and I think I hooked one of my mates last night.

 

[-Ad-]

Nice stories Tank I haven't got any......... yet

Be interested to know what your diet is like Ad.

It's too little at the moment for bulking being around 2700kcals, but it is pretty good. Although I do have my cheats things

Breakfast:
- Porridge with semi skimmed
- x2 1000mg omega 3 caps
- orange juice (need to have some toast tbh)

Snacks during mid-morning:
- Sometimes a 2nd porridge when i get to work at 730.
- Some sugary granola bar.
- 3/4 rice cakes or marmite ricecake pack.

Lunch:
- x2 wholemeal pitta
- Pasta/rice with roasted meat (chicken/ beef/ pork), cucumber, salad, tomatoes, other veg types etc, with a dressing like pesto.

Afternoon:
- Large handful of mixed nuts.
- x2 apples, grapes etc on train home about 5pm.

- Sometimes a whey shake before gym.
- Hit gym hard

Evening:
- A good helping of meat with wholemeal rice + veg like brocoli peas, couple of slices wholemeal bread.
(sometimes a chunky omelette, chicken casserole with veg etc, boiled potatoes with meat choice, or stir fry etc etc).
- Desert if Im feeling bad
- Shake before bed.
- x2 omega 3 1000mg caps

 

[^TANK^]

Nice stories Tank I haven't got any......... yet

In time you will its inevitable.

 

[BennyC]

Well we will see tonight

I did some light ones last week after her recommendation - just sets of 10 reps with 100kg and it was fine.

Will go a little heavier tonight but still take it easy for a few weeks. Its definitely getting there though

Still no squats though

Gdgd. I can't quite remember what specifically the issue with you knee is and I know you probaly don't need reminding and have already considered it. But (it may not apply depending on your injury) a steady increase in weight to check that your knee can support the weight at the top of the rep would be smart. Don't want it exploding

F.A.O: Oat users!

Do you find drinking them to be a bit dry? or should I leave my shake for a few minutes before drinking?

 

[dun]

Don't talk about dropping weights. Apparently some chap took the end of his finger off with a dumbell the other day at my gym :\

Tank- IMO its not worth getting friends into the gym, they will just slow down your own progress and 99% of the time not stick to it for long. Good luck with your mate but in my experience it doesn't work

 

[PAz]

Gdgd. I can't quite remember what specifically the issue with you knee is and I know you probaly don't need reminding and have already considered it. But (it may not apply depending on your injury) a steady increase in weight to check that your knee can support the weight at the top of the rep would be smart. Don't want it exploding

F.A.O: Oat users!

Do you find drinking them to be a bit dry? or should I leave my shake for a few minutes before drinking?

Oh yeh for sure, I will be taking it very slowly

She said as the mechanics of the lifts (deadlifts and squat - with the squat putting a lot more pressure on the knees) are quite different its ok to go with DLs, but no squats for now. Because the injury is partly hamstring related shes recommended to start deadlifting (with slow increases in weight and plenty of reps) as well as other exercises aimed at that area. The physio I'm using seeked advice of an oesteo who deals with a lot of weightlifters (apparently he squats 190kg for 15 reps himself ), who said deadlifting (again, slowly with careful weight increases) would be fine. Which is very good

 

[^TANK^]

Paz do you use wraps on your knees when you squat, because they could help take a lot of the punishment!

 

[BennyC]

Thats good. Always nice to have advice from somebody properly in the know! How would light leg curls work in, or would that be too much pressure for the knee.

My ex training partner used to wrap his knees due some injuries from american football.

On a different note:

Today was the first day I used oats in my shakes. The last time I drank oats was with unflavoured whey and I shortley caught the norovirus so any smell similar makes me want to heave. Managed the 1:1 ratio okay with a single scoop although it was a bit tough. My double scoop was about half the shaker full before adding water! Took me the best part of 750ml of water to get it all down me and I almost chundered because of a few clumps. I've found the oats to overpower the taste of the chocolate whey. Is there anything you guys would recommend putting in there to give it some flavour again? Cinamon? Sugar? I'm not sure how good a teaspoon of sugar is immediatley PWO in regards to insulin and blood sugar levels?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

On another different note todays chest & tri session went like this:

All slow negatives 3-4 seconds.

Pec-Fly Warm Up:
75 x6
82 x6
89 x6
96 x8

Inc DB Press 30 degrees:
30 x 8
32.5 x 8
35 x 8
37.5 x 7

Flat DB Press:
35KG x 8
35KG x 7
32.5 x 7
32.5 x 6

Inc Cable Flies:
11 x 8
13 x 8
13 x 8

Flat Cable Flies:

11 x 8
13 x 8
13 x 7

CGBP:
60KG x 10
60KG x 9
60KG x 8

EZ Tricep Ext. Super slow negs:
Wide 22.5 x 10
Close 22.5 x 10
Wide 22.5 x 10
Close 22.5 x 8

Pec Fly:
75KG x 8
75KG x 7
75KG x 7

Cable Tricep Pushdowns, Super slow negs, Fixed ^ bar:
21KG x 10
23KG x 10
26KG x 10
28KG x 8

Job done. Chest pump 45.5". Arm tricep pump 16.25".

 

[GarethSouthgate]

Looking good Benny. Was going to ask the same question regarding the oats + shake, never had one like that before.

I remember speaking to a bloke I used to know in my old gym and also reading the same advice in a magazine (think it was health and fitness, or mens fitness - which ever is more geared to bodybuilding), that increasing sugar/insulin levels immediately PWO is a wise idea. I use it as a good excuse to have some chocolate.

Speaking of snacks/food - would there be any interest in a bodybuilding diet/recipe thread? After all there are a fair few gym goers here, i'm sure there's loads of advice available?

Today's diet wasn't amazing but I did do some shopping in the evening so stocked up on food!

Breakfast

Eggs

Lunch

Chicken with Pasta

Supper

Chicken with chips

Dinner

Huge hot dog, well more like a frankfurter in a baguette (wasn't possible to get anything else, and now it's too late to eat)