*** The all new iPhone 4 thread - Keep all iPhone 4 stuff in here ***

It's quite well known that a cameras resolution is not the definitive way of knowing the actual quality of the photos. It sounds like Apple have included a better sensor :). If we get some test shots we'll be able to see for ourselves :D.

But with Apples track record of cameras I think i'll suggest "I'll believe it when I see it...":p

Do other phone manufactures have such strict and regular release schedules though? Not to mention the fact that most (all?) other manufacturers have more than one handset to offer, with different features. Apple have a single phone that most users would want to upgrade to, given the (relatively) low outlay once every 18 months and a continuing monthly cost. I probably would. Instead, without wishing to 'waste' money, I can only buy every other iPhone, keeping each for 2 years and having a period of 6 months where the phone is beginning to look tatty through constant and regular use.

Yes, mostly.

Most companies have a flagship model which is generally replaced by another flagship model at regular intervals (normally around 12 months).

For example I'll use Sony Ericsson (because I know a bit about their phones). The K750 came out in June 2005, their flagship model at the time. The replacement, the K800 came out in July 2006 and was the new flagship model* replacing the K750. The K850 then came out in October 2007 after a couple of months of delays, replacing the K800**. The C905, released in October 2008 replaced the K850 as the flagship model... etc etc...

HTC? Well the Touch HD, their flagship WinMo phone at the time, was released in Nov 2008. In Nov 2009 the HD2 was released, replacing the HD...

See a pattern there? :p

Most other companies may have a lot of other phones on the go at one time but most are just rehashed versions of older phones, most have only one or two flagship phones on the go at any one time, normally replaced after about a year.***

*The k750 internals were pretty much inserted wholesale into other cases and sold as lower end phones when the K800 replaced it

**Whos internals were placed wholesale into the cheaper phones again

*** HTC actually have 2 flagship phones, the HD2, running winmo and the Desire, running Android. The likes of the Tattoo and the touch Diamond x are cheaper phones, essentially reskinned older phones (the touch Diamond 2 was released in October 2009 and was essentially a reskinned, cheaper Touch HD. The Tattoo is a hero with a new shell...
 
How does this work in the Apple store these days - can you show up, buy one and choose and sign up to any of the three providers there and then? I know o2 worked with my 3GS but can you sign up to Voda/Orange in the same way now?
 
Question how much would I get for my 3G these days?

It's not in bad nick it's got a small crack where the USB cable plugs in and a few scuffs here and there but nothing major, few specs of dust under the screen as well

Any ideas?

if your with O2 they have a recycle program and you can trade in an 8Gb 3G for £172. I am planning to do that with my 3G hopefully the new handset will be free for me on my contract. i got the 3G for free so am hoping the iPhone 4 will be too.
May have to give O2 business services a call tomorrow.

Link if anyone is interested
http://www.o2recycle.co.uk/
 
Very interested in the offers I can get, especially with being able to upgrade from the 23rd of this month (final month of contract).

Might try and get a deal on a 32Gb 3GS, or would it be worth going for the iPhone 4?
 
According to a screenshot on Engadget (who are present at the Apple conference), it is being released June 21st. I'm not sure if that is a worldwide release, or just in the US.

Don't think pricing has been announced, but if you want more info it is best to keep an eye on the Engadget website.
 
Get your facts straight, it's not ALL about MP.

Like my friend has a 12mp camera in his phone, does that mean it'll take a sharper image than my 10mp DSLR?

No :)

True enough, but since apple have a habit of using the most cheap and nasty sensors and optics known to man I don't think its unreasonable to take the "believe it when we see it" stance.
 
Less pixels may equal better quality, assuming they've used a good sensor in it. Untill we see some real sample photos, and have a more thorough breakdown of the phone it's all a bit speculative really.
 
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